Dear friends,
in the next months I will stay a lot of time in hospitals and abroad so there will be no propper work branch for me. Part of my therapy is to focus on a creative thinking and drawing process I have to deal with to fight the damage of my forth stroke.
During dealing with my Russian FORELL torpedoboat I learned that all the classes boats were build in France. In my German book about early torpedo boats by Harald Fock "Die Schwarzen Gesellen" {The Back Comrades} (Koehler, Herford, 1979; ISBN 3 7822 0193 0 Pages 328) I found the drawing of very interesting "AVANT GUARDE" on page 86 with several hull-cuts:
Most interesting of this early torpedo boat type of 1889/90 is the spear (as I do assume it to be telescopic) apparatus to bring as much distance between the dangerous charge and the hull:
There is a kind of girder structure to keep the wooden or iron apparatus straight - also shown in the frontside cuts' view:
Offering a bit more of detail to us, as the edged version of the rail part of the apparatus. There are several small errors in the drawings so I urgendly need to deal with the original drawings to make some honorable progress for a final scale model.
So there were in this class the following usually 25,3-25,8kn speeding boats here sort by launch data:
AVANT GARDE
11.X.1889 (Normand ship yard)
TURCO
30.XI.1890 (Chant. d.l.Loire 20,1kn)
ZOUAVE
20.VIII.1891 (Chant. d.l.Loire 21,0kn)
DRAGON
29.IV.1892 (Normand)
GRENADIER
20.V.1892 (Normand)
LANCIER
19.IX.1892 (Normand)
ARCHER
30.V.1893 (Normand)
The most important data
L.o.a: 44,22ms
L.p.p.: 41,94ms
B.moulds: 4,39ms
B.max : 4,50ms
D.max.: 2,50ms
Crew: 28
2x 47mms QFgun
2x 381mms TT
2x Oriolle water-pipe boiler of 14atu
2x 900 PSi 3cyl. 3times compound
Very interesting is the highly individually choosen location of the propellers out of line but side by side - I have never seen such an construction before:
For my trials to build a rough scetch I enlarged the plan from the book by 243% in my Copy shop and got L.o.a. of 614,03mms and am now in scale of 1:72,0002. So this is a cute measurement (here pictured beside an imperial ruler for our American members) for a model in the shelf:
My quest is to find further information plans, pictures, and drawings of some of the class' members to play a bit in the 3D-regime to get a rough scetch for a very first impression of the boat. My biggest problem is my deep leck of French languages' knowledge :-/ as I did start to learn Russian for the bought magazins and booklets.
Is there anybody with us who does have got idea where to find those drawings? And would like to give me some support.
Thanks a lot from Berlin,
Christian Heinrich
in the next months I will stay a lot of time in hospitals and abroad so there will be no propper work branch for me. Part of my therapy is to focus on a creative thinking and drawing process I have to deal with to fight the damage of my forth stroke.
During dealing with my Russian FORELL torpedoboat I learned that all the classes boats were build in France. In my German book about early torpedo boats by Harald Fock "Die Schwarzen Gesellen" {The Back Comrades} (Koehler, Herford, 1979; ISBN 3 7822 0193 0 Pages 328) I found the drawing of very interesting "AVANT GUARDE" on page 86 with several hull-cuts:
Most interesting of this early torpedo boat type of 1889/90 is the spear (as I do assume it to be telescopic) apparatus to bring as much distance between the dangerous charge and the hull:
There is a kind of girder structure to keep the wooden or iron apparatus straight - also shown in the frontside cuts' view:
Offering a bit more of detail to us, as the edged version of the rail part of the apparatus. There are several small errors in the drawings so I urgendly need to deal with the original drawings to make some honorable progress for a final scale model.
So there were in this class the following usually 25,3-25,8kn speeding boats here sort by launch data:
AVANT GARDE
11.X.1889 (Normand ship yard)
TURCO
30.XI.1890 (Chant. d.l.Loire 20,1kn)
ZOUAVE
20.VIII.1891 (Chant. d.l.Loire 21,0kn)
DRAGON
29.IV.1892 (Normand)
GRENADIER
20.V.1892 (Normand)
LANCIER
19.IX.1892 (Normand)
ARCHER
30.V.1893 (Normand)
The most important data
L.o.a: 44,22ms
L.p.p.: 41,94ms
B.moulds: 4,39ms
B.max : 4,50ms
D.max.: 2,50ms
Crew: 28
2x 47mms QFgun
2x 381mms TT
2x Oriolle water-pipe boiler of 14atu
2x 900 PSi 3cyl. 3times compound
Very interesting is the highly individually choosen location of the propellers out of line but side by side - I have never seen such an construction before:
For my trials to build a rough scetch I enlarged the plan from the book by 243% in my Copy shop and got L.o.a. of 614,03mms and am now in scale of 1:72,0002. So this is a cute measurement (here pictured beside an imperial ruler for our American members) for a model in the shelf:
My quest is to find further information plans, pictures, and drawings of some of the class' members to play a bit in the 3D-regime to get a rough scetch for a very first impression of the boat. My biggest problem is my deep leck of French languages' knowledge :-/ as I did start to learn Russian for the bought magazins and booklets.
Is there anybody with us who does have got idea where to find those drawings? And would like to give me some support.
Thanks a lot from Berlin,
Christian Heinrich