I am absolutely, 100% on-board with this creative venture! I love the scope and ambition of the project, and I know you have the talent to pull it off!
What'ch'you talkin' about Hoss? You look great in that pictureThis project will be certainly one of the great undertakings. With room for much interpretation, I'm sure you will add the "Maarten" flavor to it. It will be on my watch list for sure. My only concern is being around to see it finished if sawdust production won't start for 5 years. Maarten, I'm not a young man!
I really loved your attached infographic of the history of the ship. Highly informative and anticipatory of a wonderful ship-modeling journey.
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sadly i am not skilled enough to do things from stractch , so I decided to buy the de agostini and mantua model and do small bit from scratch but since I love next to the greenwhich maritime museum I collected few stuff , I hope it helps
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mack clay book is not really a good items ,I have it its great pics etc but ...... not based on real materials check this one I am sure you will like it
Those are stunning images of the Pett portrait. I have never seen those details so clearly before.
So, Maarten, onto one of the most polarizing questions about the Sovereign: round tuck or square tuck?
So, Maarten, onto one of the most polarizing questions about the Sovereign: round tuck or square tuck?
Here is one such debate with excellent supporting resources:
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Sovereign of the Seas: square tuck or round tuck?
Good Afternoon; The recent publication of John McKay's book 'Sovereign of the Seas', which purports to give an accurate representation of the ship as built in 1637, has resulted in some fairly caustic reviews appearing on Amazon. This includes one from Frank Fox, probably the foremost expert in s...
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round tuck or square tuck would be the most accurate one , nothing support the square one for her
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Maarten got a ban thereHere is one such debate with excellent supporting resources:
Sovereign of the Seas: square tuck or round tuck?
Good Afternoon; The recent publication of John McKay's book 'Sovereign of the Seas', which purports to give an accurate representation of the ship as built in 1637, has resulted in some fairly caustic reviews appearing on Amazon. This includes one from Frank Fox, probably the foremost expert in s...
he is supporting China.
Maarten, I can't wait for you to get started on this classic! I'm pulling up a stool! Magic Mike
Yes, the fighting between sites is as furious as the Anglo/Dutch wars. I maintain my neutrality.
Hi Mark,Here is one such debate with excellent supporting resources:
Sovereign of the Seas: square tuck or round tuck?
Good Afternoon; The recent publication of John McKay's book 'Sovereign of the Seas', which purports to give an accurate representation of the ship as built in 1637, has resulted in some fairly caustic reviews appearing on Amazon. This includes one from Frank Fox, probably the foremost expert in s...
Thx for your interest.
For me round tuck for sure. The early Van de Velde drawings of 1675 and the Jacob Knijf painting of 1673 show clearly a round tuck.
Only the 1659/1560 rebuild has been in between this and the new build of the ship, except for the 1651 minor modification of the grating decks. As the complete stern and galleries after the 1659 rebuild are stil the same the tuck would have been the same. So for me 99.9 % round tuck. Even the 1635 design painting seems to confirm this as it looks like having a round tuck.
Ps the timeline document is some thing I will update from time to time while figuring out new things.
Next thing I am working on is main frame design, comparing the Seppings design vs McKay, Bushnell vs Phineas Pett autobiography and see if we can get any new info from that. Maybe people have other sugestions.
So far I understood McKay used Dean to constructed his hull shape. Although Deans treatise is 30 years after the build of the SotS he had close connection to the Pett family.
It will be interesting to compare.
You see a lot to read and research in the coming time.
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Hi Fred,
Your pictures of the Lely painting are great, I think you posted them some time ago already and I downloaded those.
I have been in the nmm in May this year and actually haven t taken new pictures while yours are so good in detail. Many thanks for that.
Suggest a hard look at building process. If you build fully as if … 2 to 4 years. Maybe 5 years. There are some excellent examples of alternative than fully framing. I really wish you luck! The changes are not fully documented but …. I feel the research will take a year. Please visit and see other built ships of this. Choose wisely: if you’re a shipwright ok if not, think of spilling to gallery build. It’s all hard … I thought making a cooker would be simple: OMG … How much detail? The carving nearly sent me bonkers on a 74 gun. That took a year!
Well
Good luck
Let’s see the progress
And keep your hair / cool
My only advice is to walk away, get some sleep and another or 2 or 3 or …. But the light pops on and the shavings increase. Jigs as you build and waiting for the bits to come is((!!! No matter how you plan it.
Best of luck!
Well
Good luck
Let’s see the progress
And keep your hair / cool
My only advice is to walk away, get some sleep and another or 2 or 3 or …. But the light pops on and the shavings increase. Jigs as you build and waiting for the bits to come is
((!!! No matter how you plan it.Best of luck!
Yes, the fighting between sites is as furious as the Anglo/Dutch wars. I maintain my neutrality.
Hi Hermies,Suggest a hard look at building process. If you build fully as if … 2 to 4 years. Maybe 5 years. There are some excellent examples of alternative than fully framing. I really wish you luck! The changes are not fully documented but …. I feel the research will take a year. Please visit and see other built ships of this. Choose wisely: if you’re a shipwright ok if not, think of spilling to gallery build. It’s all hard … I thought making a cooker would be simple: OMG … How much detail? The carving nearly sent me bonkers on a 74 gun. That took a year!
Well
Good luck
Let’s see the progress
And keep your hair / cool
My only advice is to walk away, get some sleep and another or 2 or 3 or …. But the light pops on and the shavings increase. Jigs as you build and waiting for the bits to come is
Best of luck!
Good advise, but don't worry. These project are not born in one week. I am already planning this for some time. As mentioned it will still be a long time before starting. But I like to take readers along the way of building something that is not fully documented.
Check my current build on the ghost ship. My planning work on that one is already some years and now just started beginning this year with first dust. Research is key and that is what I am starting now.
A Dutch Fluyt in shell first, reconstructing the "Ghost ship" scale 1:36
For a long time I already want to build a Dutch fluyt and had been looking for the best possible candidate. The shape of the fluyt is extraordenary and directly recognizable with its bollow stern, the Jelo of ships. It was the workhorse of the 17th century when the Dutch dominated shipping in...
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