Roter Löwe 1597 by Ondras71 - scala 1/60

[Frank48]

I continue on the work boat. Bending workshop..

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According to the paper templates, I create more rows of boards, the edges highlighted with graphite..

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The third row already has an extreme side bend. After a good soaking, the 0.8x3.5 mm strips can be bent well, just persistence. Step one - side bend..

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Step 2 - after drying, bend into the shape of the torso, then fit.. I will save material against carving from wood plates..

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The last part, closing the bottom. Too small, the bottom will not be visible, I helped myself by assembling the moldings from two parts. Otherwise, it would not be possible to do it well..

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Hi Ondras, just so you know, the center frames the configuration is reversed as shown in the picture. Frank

 

[Ondras71]

Hi Ondras, just so you know, the center frames the configuration is reversed as shown in the picture. Frank

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Hello Frank. You probably built a different boat, I'm building mine according to the Zeehaen plan from Ab Hoving's book. I have already shown the plan, the ribs are according to it. Thanks for the response. Ondras

Roter Löwe 1597 by Ondras71 - scala 1/60

Congrats on the silver medal! Well deserved!

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[Frank48]

Hello Frank. You probably built a different boat, I'm building mine according to the Zeehaen plan from Ab Hoving's book. I have already shown the plan, the ribs are according to it. Thanks for the response. Ondras

Roter Löwe 1597 by Ondras71 - scala 1/60

Congrats on the silver medal! Well deserved!

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Hi Ondras71, Thanks for replying but , I am not so convinced that the structure is so.Frank

 

[Uwek]

Many thanks for showing us the detail with the card-board templates - keep them and do not through them away - maybe you need them once for a second boat
Very good work
BTW: I guess, knowing Ab Hoving, the plans are correct

 

[Ondras71]

Hi Ondras71, Thanks for replying but , I am not so convinced that the structure is so.Frank

Many thanks for showing us the detail with the card-board templates - keep them and do not through them away - maybe you need them once for a second boat
Very good work
BTW: I guess, knowing Ab Hoving, the plans are correct

Again I salute and repeat the words of Uwek. Who else to trust in the quality of the plan than Ab Hoving.

 

[Ondras71]

Another milestone behind me, the body of the boat finished, sanded and cut from the hoof with a razor saw..





Again I used the option of dispersion glue. The sunken place on the bow after removal is wetted and pushed from the inside into the correct place..







A preview of the boat on the ship's deck..











Now clean the ribs and arrange..

 

[Frank48]

Again I salute and repeat the words of Uwek. Who else to trust in the quality of the plan than Ab Hoving.

Sorry Ondras71,I did not question or offend anyone or Mr. Ab Hoving , it is useless for you to remark things.Rest assured that I will not put any more eyes on YOUR works.Frank

 

[Herman]

Awesome combination of this beatiful decorated boat on the Roter Löwe.

 

[Steef66]

That's nicely done. Like the look and planking of this longboat.

 

[Steef66]

Sorry Ondras71,I did not question or offend anyone or Mr. Ab Hoving , it is useless for you to remark things.Rest assured that I will not put any more eyes on YOUR works.Frank

You could be right about this point, looking to the original plans of a chaloup. @Heinrich got plans from @Ab Hoving that show this too. Look here
Post in thread 'HIGH HOPES, WILD MEN AND THE DEVIL’S JAW - Willem Barentsz Kolderstok 1:50' https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/...lem-barentsz-kolderstok-1-50.8662/post-233908
Maybe both ways are correct, I don't know.

 

[Ab Hoving]

Beautiful work @Ondras71 , my compliments.

And about the correctness of my nowadays drawings: there are always reasons for doubts. @Frank48 may be right about the frames. Who knows. I based the drawings on Witsen's book and he is supposed to be right.... I hope.




Best,
Ab

 

[Frank48]

Beautiful work @Ondras71 , my compliments.

And about the correctness of my nowadays drawings: there are always reasons for doubts. @Frank48 may be right about the frames. Who knows. I based the drawings on Witsen's book and he is supposed to be right.... I hope.

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Best,
Ab

Hi Ab Hoving, I thank You for Your precission, believe me,I never questioned Your work but only made my own observation.I also have the book You mentioned. Fran

 

[Ab Hoving]

No problem @Frank48, actually you should question everything I say or do, I only try to use the historical sources as good as I can. Believe me, if trying to make useful drawings for our hobby, you run into question marks time after time and you have to try to solve them without much more than the available wisdom and ignorance. Sometimes you are right, sometimes you are not.
I understand why you made the remark about the frames. Indeed the futtocks are usually on the front side of the floor in the fore part of the ship and on the aft side in the aft part. I don't know why it is not the case here. Perhaps Witsen was not aware...

Sorry @Ondras71 for high-jacking your thread.

 

[Frank48]

No problem @Frank48, actually you should question everything I say or do, I only try to use the historical sources as good as I can. Believe me, if trying to make useful drawings for our hobby, you run into question marks time after time and you have to try to solve them without much more than the available wisdom and ignorance. Sometimes you are right, sometimes you are not.
I understand why you made the remark about the frames. Indeed the futtocks are usually on the front side of the floor in the fore part of the ship and on the aft side in the aft part. I don't know why it is not the case here. Perhaps Witsen was not aware...

Sorry @Ondras71 for high-jacking your thread.

Hi Ab Hoving, very right Your analysis that common sense and respect for people should always prevail, Thank you for responding to me,Frank

 

[Ondras71]

Hi Ab Hoving, very right Your analysis that common sense and respect for people should always prevail, Thank you for responding to me,Frank

An interesting and informative debate, such are needed. I'm building a competition model, I try to stick to the plan as long as it's good quality!!

 

[Ondras71]

I continue on the boat..

I found beautiful photos of the Willem Barentsz boat replica. On the website of the modeler Heinrich. https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/high-hopes-wild-men-and-the-devil’s-jaw-willem-barentsz-kolderstok-1-50.8662/page-100



The tops of the ribs have been cleaned, the ribs have been cleaned inside, the top edge has been ground flat..







Completed the last rib and bottom of the boat..





Outer hull and bottom of boat waxed..





Now the railings and benches..

 

[Herman]

A beautiful boat, the waxing really brings it to life.

 

[Tobias]

Hi Ondras, it looks absolutely clean. Great work on the little boat.

 

[Uwek]

clean and accurate work - very good work

 

[archjofo]

Wonderful and good work !