1/350 USS New Jersey Revell Platinum Edition

The Navy is like the Air Force, I am an old A-10 Crew Chief (Plain Captain) in Navy terms, and to think the new F-35 can replace a plane specifically built to attack ground armor is silly. Going faster with electronics doesn't make a plane better, only faster.

The A-10 proved all the critics wrong when they said it would be shot out of sky by defenders of the enemy tanks they were going after.
The A-10 has saved my butt a few times what a beautiful noise when it's on a gun run, a noise I will know for the rest of my life. Yes the A-10 is a great example of engineering that was designed for a job and does the job well.

Every time they put that plane on the chopping block they can't find a replacement that can do the job as well. And F-35 could never handle the damage an A-10 could take and still make it back to the airstrip.

I have to believe with out showing my politics to hard that the money made in those government contracts pushes the equipment we buy much more then if the equipments the right stuff for the job
 
The Navy is like the Air Force, I am an old A-10 Crew Chief (Plain Captain) in Navy terms, and to think the new F-35 can replace a plane specifically built to attack ground armor is silly. Going faster with electronics doesn't make a plane better, only faster.

The A-10 proved all the critics wrong when they said it would be shot out of sky by defenders of the enemy tanks they were going after.
Still an amazing aircraft to this day with nothing of substance to replace it. Must have been great to work on them.
 
Update, I redid the hull re primed and then did a weathered airbrushing effect I saw on another thread with yellow orange brown and hull red I think it came out pretty good for my first attempt I'm not sure if this will be how it stays but I'm open to some thoughtsPXL_20230712_014121212.MP.jpgPXL_20230712_014114103.MP.jpg
 
Update with pictures to follow tomorrow -

So I wanted to just kinda log my progress so I wouldn't get to far behind on my build log, but before I do I figure alittle explanation might kinda help explain circumstances.

To start my model building is done at home and while I have down time at work (I know I have a cool job to be able to build models on the clock) this is mainly cause I don't have a work shop, most of my hobby tools are in tool boxes I try to keep organized, and to bare minimums so I'm not lugging around everything but I have two large organizers for different paints one for mostly Tamiya paints one for vellejo and tester enamels plus a few odd balls for specific uses like weathering ECT.. on top of the two paint organizers I have a a tool box with my knives cutters airbrushes and other things I need when to build and assemble parts, and then I have a tool box for prep work clean up and weathering that contains sand papers, sanding sponges, glues, spare materials and odd ball stuff.

Anyways the point is my builds are constantly taken out of the box and worked on and packed back up, for this purpose I try to build my kits in sections leaving off any extremely fine and fragile detail parts till the very end to prevent damage during this unpack repack and transport phase. This is not ideal and presents alot of challenges especially since it would be much easier to have the model on a work bench built from the keel up until complete.

Being that the New Jersey is a rather large kit with a lot of fine detail I've been working on it in phases starting with the Hull, the main weather deck, the lower super structure and then the upper super structure.

The problem I've been running into is with this kits instructions, SCaleMates.com shows the history of this kit starting with WWII era, then receiving some retooling and updates, eventually new parts were added and they updated the kit Yet again to the 1982 era, finally another update to the platinum edition adding All the extra upgrade parts and in addition some additional instructions.

The issue is Revell added parts but didn't remove all the old parts from the kit from the WWII era in addition the instructions though updated were not rewritten for the Platinum version, so I constantly have to jump around looking at photos of the PE instructions to get a clear idea of how to build the main kit in a manner to recieve it's upgrades. there are a lot of gaps in the instructions in which it's not clear what parts need to be removed and where new parts have to added this is pretty frustrating.

So far I was able to get the main hull assembled, about 60 % of the super structure, and I'm working on the weather deck which has a ton of PE upgrades but very few instructions on what needs to be removed so that's alittle bit of a pain.

I did a lot of PE work today and I'm happy to say I didn't screw it up which is a win for me.

Sorry I know it was long and drawn out and I didnt provide pictures but I promise to try and keep them shorter from now on and tomorrow I'll get some pictures up of my current work
 
The Navy is like the Air Force, I am an old A-10 Crew Chief (Plain Captain) in Navy terms, and to think the new F-35 can replace a plane specifically built to attack ground armor is silly. Going faster with electronics doesn't make a plane better, only faster.

The A-10 proved all the critics wrong when they said it would be shot out of sky by defenders of the enemy tanks they were going after.
IMO, the Navy would like to get away from the NGF role as quickly as possible, just as the USAF wants out of the close air support mission.
 
When my little brother was stationed in Bremerton on the Nimitz in the mid-80s, I got to see the Missouri, Iowa, and New Jersey tied up side-by-side. Spectacular. In the history of warfare, you never seem to know what you need until it's too late. Truthfully, I don't think we can even make the rounds for the 16" guns anymore. The New Jersey is in Camden in the Delaware across from Philadelphia due to politics. The South Jersey faction imagined they could revive Camden ( often ranked as the worst city in the country for crime and poverty ) with the NJ, an aquarium, and a concert pavilion. The New Jersey should be in the Hudson across from NYC and the Intrepid CV-11. It would get many, many more visitors and would have looked absolutely spectacular. Oh well, politics. Philadephia is worth a visit for old-ship fans. You can tour the Olympia- the last of her kind and part of The Great White Fleet. You can also tour and eat on the Moshulu right next to her. The NJ is right across the river. Sadly, the magnificent SS United States sits rusting just down river on the PA side. Many plans have been proposed, but no one has been able to restore her (yet?). 1689446323688.png
 
IMO, the Navy would like to get away from the NGF role as quickly as possible, just as the USAF wants out of the close air support mission.
This is probably true, I spoke earlier of it but there are quite a few articles regarding this topic and the US Navy's ageing fleet and back log of repairs due to lack of dry dock space. There are also quite a few articles discussing the issues with the make up of the current surface warfare fleet and the lack of firepower modernization and pigeon holed mission capabilities. force Master Chief McMullen (I believe is the correct master chief to source) talks in great length about his thoughts on this issue it's a pretty good read if your a navy nerd like me.
 
When my little brother was stationed in Bremerton on the Nimitz in the mid-80s, I got to see the Missouri, Iowa, and New Jersey tied up side-by-side. Spectacular. In the history of warfare, you never seem to know what you need until it's too late. Truthfully, I don't think we can even make the rounds for the 16" guns anymore. The New Jersey is in Camden in the Delaware across from Philadelphia due to politics. The South Jersey faction imagined they could revive Camden ( often ranked as the worst city in the country for crime and poverty ) with the NJ, an aquarium, and a concert pavilion. The New Jersey should be in the Hudson across from NYC and the Intrepid CV-11. It would get many, many more visitors and would have looked absolutely spectacular. Oh well, politics. Philadephia is worth a visit for old-ship fans. You can tour the Olympia- the last of her kind and part of The Great White Fleet. You can also tour and eat on the Moshulu right next to her. The NJ is right across the river. Sadly, the magnificent SS United States sits rusting just down river on the PA side. Many plans have been proposed, but no one has been able to restore her (yet?). View attachment 384897
I've toured the New Jersey many times, and even have/had the opportunity to volunteer on her to do restoration. As a kid I got a chance to stay on board her for a few nights as a Sea Cadet it was really cool. The Ships curator has a awesome and very informative YouTube channel about the Ship the Iowa class and other battleships I highly recommend it.
I've heard numerous plans for the United States but heard that they have never found the money to make it happen.

The Olympia is another awesome ship to tour specifically cause I know of no other cruiser of her vintage still afloat. They also have a Gato class sub there as well which you can tour.

Regarding production of the 16" shells, truth be told up until a few years back they still had some in the arsenal but they have been disposed of as far as I'm aware, my last duty station was Naval Weapons Station Earl and they stored powder for the 16" guns over the years, the bigger issue is the barrels they had a very limited number produced across the Iowa class and the capabilities to make them currently do not exist so even if they ever could reactivate and modernize a Iowa Class battleship it would cost pretty close to building a brand new ship and weapon system.

Sadly we probably won't ever see something like the New Jersey or the Iowa's again so hopefully they are maintained well to last for generations.

The ship I really want to build, and really wish was a museum was the USS Alaska, the closest thing to a battle cruiser the US Navy ever built but unfortunately not many liked and came to late in WWII to be of any significant use
 
A little bit of Trivia for you all why is a US Navy Battleship Designated BB- ?

Ship designations are based on type for example air carriers are CVN which is Carrier Volplane Nuclear don't ask me what Volplane is I'm guessing an old term
 
that "N" is there only if nuclear powered so the Forrestal & Kitty Hawk classes plus the previous classes being oil burners were designated CV. submarines not nuclear powered were designated SS.
The designations of the various types of U.S. naval vessels are derived by compounding an initial letter indicative of general category (thus A, auxiliary; C, cruiser; D, destroyer; L, landing; P, patrol) with one or more modifiers descriptive of the particular species (thus C, command or craft; D, destroyer or dock; E, explosive or escort; H, hospital or helicopter; O, oiler or ocean; P, transport (i.e., personnel); T, tracked, tank, or torpedo; V, aviation). Type designators employed in this book are as follows:
 
that "N" is there only if nuclear powered so the Forrestal & Kitty Hawk classes plus the previous classes being oil burners were designated CV. submarines not nuclear powered were designated SS.
The designations of the various types of U.S. naval vessels are derived by compounding an initial letter indicative of general category (thus A, auxiliary; C, cruiser; D, destroyer; L, landing; P, patrol) with one or more modifiers descriptive of the particular species (thus C, command or craft; D, destroyer or dock; E, explosive or escort; H, hospital or helicopter; O, oiler or ocean; P, transport (i.e., personnel); T, tracked, tank, or torpedo; V, aviation). Type designators employed in this book are as follows:
It was a trivia question I knew the answer but what I was actually getting at was the fact BB in is two letters and it only designates battleship with no descriptive modifier.

The reason for the double lettering is navy protocol for single letter abbreviation is to double the letter. So BB is only for battleship, how ever many people with out the naval knowledge would guess battle barge or battleship bombardment believing both Bs stood for something.

And yes the N is only there for nuclear which is why I defined it in my example but didn't include CV because we do not have any active standard propulsion carriers in the fleet.
 
It was a trivia question I knew the answer but what I was actually getting at was the fact BB in is two letters and it only designates battleship with no descriptive modifier.

The reason for the double lettering is navy protocol for single letter abbreviation is to double the letter. So BB is only for battleship, how ever many people with out the naval knowledge would guess battle barge or battleship bombardment believing both Bs stood for something.

And yes the N is only there for nuclear which is why I defined it in my example but didn't include CV because we do not have any active standard propulsion carriers in the fleet.
That sounds a whole like the MDS use by US Air Force, MDS - Mission, Design, Series, with prefix and modifiers added.

Example, KC-135R, comes from C Cargo, K prefix is Fueling, -135 is design number, R is series, many of these aged beasts started as A models, changed to D or E when they got new engines, and after second reengining project they are now R models. You also see other prefix of E (EC-135R) for electronics - aka electronic tracking.

And my favorite A - Attack, the A-10C, C is third series in the design of the A-10. Also an OA-10A, which was Observation (Forward Air Control roles) configuration of the original A-10A, don't know if these were updated to C model functions.

Back in the 60-70's we had RF-4C, Recon Fighter or camera bird versions of the old Phantom.

And the listing of MDS and codes goes on and on.

The military likes to make everything confusing to track at times.
 
Doc82,
We could use you at the USNA Museum workshop! Our last plastic models wizard ( he literally made museum pieces from plastic model kits, several of which have pride of place on the US Navy history exhibition floor (deck) at the Museum. He was pushing 80 when pancreatic. cancer got him. He was a veteran electronics guy on Cruisers from the late fifties - early to mid1970s. You have his depth of interest and apparently a pretty deep well of knowledge, and plastic model building chops that would help fill a vacuum and a big pair of shoes at the Academy museum. I know that's probably not going to happen, but the place where you do plan to volunteer will be lucky to have you. That's a lot. Especially considering you are a mere stripling of a youth compared with a lot of us duffers in this hobby and (God willing and the crick don't rise) you have a lot of years left yet to make a significant contribution. Our ranks at the museum shop are thinning out, with precious few replacements with the requisite skills, let alone any mileage left to fill the ranks.
Your work looks beautiful so far and trending toward a spectacular example of the art. (And don't let anyone tell you otherwise, that's what it is!).
Welcome aboard! :D

Pete
By the way, I understand that CA glue was originally purposed to close wounds in lieu of sutures in field emergency medicine.
 
Doc82,
We could use you at the USNA Museum workshop! Our last plastic models wizard ( he literally made museum pieces from plastic model kits, several of which have pride of place on the US Navy history exhibition floor (deck) at the Museum. He was pushing 80 when pancreatic. cancer got him. He was a veteran electronics guy on Cruisers from the late fifties - early to mid1970s. You have his depth of interest and apparently a pretty deep well of knowledge, and plastic model building chops that would help fill a vacuum and a big pair of shoes at the Academy museum. I know that's probably not going to happen, but the place where you do plan to volunteer will be lucky to have you. That's a lot. Especially considering you are a mere stripling of a youth compared with a lot of us duffers in this hobby and (God willing and the crick don't rise) you have a lot of years left yet to make a significant contribution. Our ranks at the museum shop are thinning out, with precious few replacements with the requisite skills, let alone any mileage left to fill the ranks.
Your work looks beautiful so far and trending toward a spectacular example of the art. (And don't let anyone tell you otherwise, that's what it is!).
Welcome aboard! :D

Pete
By the way, I understand that CA glue was originally purposed to close wounds in lieu of sutures in field emergency medicine.
Pete, thank you for the supportive words, reading this actually brought a smile to my day. I would love to help any way I could though I do feel my skills aren't quite at the level I would want them to be to represent the US Naval Academy a place I dreamed of attending as a child but unfortunately didn't have the academic focus needed at the time to obtain entry.

Perhaps one day I can volunteer some of my time to assist you at the museum, I just have to find the time lol. I believe in giving back as much as I can because humility has taught me that so much of my life has been instilled upon me by the wisdom of much wiser men that once started where i am.

Regard CA glue, I can't source this historically but I too have heard it was an inventive way of closing wounds in replacement of sutures. I heard it was in the Vietnam era. I can say from first hand knowledge as a Hospital Corpsman serving with the marine it is still used for this purpose though some company slaps medical grade on the stuff and sells it to the government at most likely 5x the cost.

I'm currently working on improving my skills and finding away to share them threw social media, as I have been asked by quite a few people I follow to share my work in video or live stream format.
 
Photos to post finally-

I know these are alittle late but I finally was able to take some photos and post some of the recent work.

Please keep in mind these parts are unfinished meaning, glue hasn't been sanded or cleaned up, PE maybe slightly banged up cause unfortunately I have clumsy hands when working, and paint is in various stages but no where near the final product at least I hope lol.

First up the three main turrets, these guys weren't to much of a problem, though Revell could have done a better job on the fit of these parts as the upper body of the turret and the deck of it didn't line up flush as all, this required some modification such as trimming filling and sanding, the PE ladders were the hardest part as trying to fold the edges even with a PE tool was pretty tricky thankfully the gauge of the PE metal was tough enough to handle my abuse.

I forgot to prime the brass barrels and as I was taping them to spray the Black paint on the Barrel bloomers aka blast bags the tape pulled the gray paint right off.

Also don't mind my disgusting looking finger nail that crud on it is paint glue and oil paints lol
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Next up is the main weather deck, now most of this deck is gonna be covered with wooden lamanent that came in the kit and then quite a lot of PE hatches and parts so realistically there isn't much to see yet but I primed it and laid down a dark grey that I'm considering using for horizontal surfaces that are "Non-skid" the navy actually has a specific color for these surfaces but honestly I don't know what it is possibly deck grey I gotta do a little research.

One hassle I have is there isn't any instructions provided for the Upgrade parts and the deck it self, so I'm finding out what parts need to be cutaway from the original plastic and fitted with PE as I go.. I don't know why Revell forgot about this part of the build but they dropped the ball.

The last thing I did was on the fan tail of the ship which was modernized for Helicopter operations as a flight deck I textured the surface with a Fine sponge and Mr. surfacer 500 grit paint.

USN flight decks are covered with this rough thick epoxy coating known as Non-Skid it actually contains it's coloring and isn't painted, the US Navy usually has it applied or repaired by Contractors that grind of the old stuff off to the metal and apply the new stuff from what I'm told it is a very labor intensive process.

The model kit has a smooth surface on the fan tail and a large decal that is then applied, but I'm not a fan of this decal it just doesn't look natural, so my two options were to texture the deck and then apply the decal with a lot of Mr Mark Softer so that the decal lays into the texture naturally or to make a stencil and paint the flight deck which I think might be the better option how ever idk if I have the skills to do it justice.
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Next up is the main super structure of the Ship more specific the O-1 threw I believe 0-4 levels

This is another area were revells part fitting was a problem for me did alot adjusting of the parts to make them fit properly and flush which then made issues with squaring off of certain structures PXL_20230716_182542214.MP.jpg
You can see in this area a rough carved gap were the mangled PE railing is ... That I'll have to carefully straighten out again .. but as for the gap I have to fill it with scrap material and putty and then sand. These gaps occured a lot and I have filled several of them, when I was installing this area it would line up properly and left and even bigger gap that made the rest of the structure of center I wound up trimming some of the part and sanding it flat until I could close the gap better and make the part align straight.
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The bridge went together a little better I have some PE to fix but it wasn't to bad, fun fact the original bridge of Iowa Class battle ships was rounded and not squared off like the current version also during sea trials the bridge was not enclosed at all during a refitting after sea trials completion the bridge was enclosed and then later in her life reshaped to the square version. Interestingly the Kit comes with the rounded enclosed bridge version.



The hull- there isn't to much to say on the hull, I tried to add details to the hull such as panel lines abd such but failed pretty miserably, as it was pointed out to me the scale would make these not very pronounced in the first place lines pretty hard to duplicate.

What I did do was follow the lead of another builder and try this layered weathering effect on the Anti-fouling hull red paint. My first attempt came out pretty good but I can do better so I'm planning on doing it over l.

the black transition line aka the boot strap or wind water line was a bit of a challenge, due to scale I didn't want this line to be too wide or two small, and there wasnt much of a reference point built into the hull that I could use to mask a straight line after several attempts I came up with this line and I think I was pretty successful.
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The main stack and upper super structure was a bit more of a challenge, due to a lot of fine detail crammed into on space, I have a lot of PE repairs to make cause I kept mashing railings and ladders while working on other areas of the structure, the Air attack radar and range finders not shown in this picture was a a prime example of a ton of detail crammed into a tiny part but they are so fragile I have left them for later on in the build when I can put them in place and leave them be. PXL_20230716_182902171.MP.jpgPXL_20230716_182922537.MP.jpg

Lastly the weapons deck, this part I have to disassemble because I have recently realized it is not square, the part it self wasn't a challenge it just has a wonky fit unfortunately.

This area holds the ships tomahawk cruise missile systems and CWIS both of which unfortunately was not provided to much of an upgrade by Revell and lack a lot of detail, the cruise missile boxs did get so PE upgrades and railings but are kinda lacking.

I have recently ordered after market CWIS systems that look alot better which are coming from China so I have no idea when they will arrive, I'm also planning on purchasing Tomahawk systems and harpoon anti ship missile systems to replace the kit parts I'm just looking for a decently priced kit that isn't gonna take weeks to arrive.16895353848828025936262148486986.jpg
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That's all I got for now Ill post more as I do more please let me know if you have an constructive feedback
 
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