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Soleil Royal- Re-engineering Artesania Latina's New Kit by NMBROOK
Hello Nigel- this is a massive project and I will definitely be the student in the class observing this build. Good luck. Cheers Grant
Overall, it seem the cost will rise up to obtain good result.
I'll hop in every now and then if i may, this has the start of a great build
Good day; if you can easily read French, here is a document I made that can give you some tips on the ship's history and overall look of the before and after the refit....Let me know if there are details you would like some explanation on
Merci Guy. Très beau document.
Merci je crois qu'il ne manque pas grand chose....Je détiens toutes les références mentionnées à la fin, donc si vous désirez une informatin, je peux tenter de la trouver....Mais après avoir lu tous ces livres, du moins les parties qui s'appliquent, je crois pas qu'il y ait quelque chose qui manque...et je ne trouve plus d'autres références pertinentes sur le sujet....
je crois qu'il ne manque pas grand chose....Je détiens toutes les références mentionnées à la fin, donc si vous désirez une informatin, je peux tenter de la trouver....Mais après avoir lu tous ces livres, du moins les parties qui s'appliquent, je crois pas qu'il y ait quelque chose qui manque...et je ne trouve plus d'autres références pertinentes sur le sujet....
Bonjour, Guy! Nice to see you here. I have taken the liberty to share your research with a number of builders on this site, Nigel included. Is your own model of SR now on this site?Good day; if you can easily read French, here is a document I made that can give you some tips on the ship's history and overall look of the before and after the refit....Let me know if there are details you would like some explanation on
Hi; yes, by all means, share it with as many interested people as you can
I am making one, but I have modified it quite a bit, being a Heller kit, to match what I found; I choosed that one because the stern is the closest in the dimensions and preciseness to the Tanneron model, which is probably the closest one can get to the very first iteration of the ship; it will be a ''waterline'' model since the hull isn't to the dimensions of the original one at the bottom end; one small detail I found is if one considers the kit as a 1/95 kit, all the dimensions start to come together....The document needs to be read carefully as there are a lot of small details to understand and I did write it as I found information, so there is some repetition in the text structure...
I am making one, but I have modified it quite a bit, being a Heller kit, to match what I found; I choosed that one because the stern is the closest in the dimensions and preciseness to the Tanneron model, which is probably the closest one can get to the very first iteration of the ship; it will be a ''waterline'' model since the hull isn't to the dimensions of the original one at the bottom end; one small detail I found is if one considers the kit as a 1/95 kit, all the dimensions start to come together....The document needs to be read carefully as there are a lot of small details to understand and I did write it as I found information, so there is some repetition in the text structure...
Well, Nigel, as you well know - you have your work ahead of you! It will be fun and fascinating to watch this model take shape. Your revised gun layout already is a massive improvement. You will have some interesting choices to make, with regard to the ornamental upper bulwark frieze.
I will be happily following along through the entire process.
I will be happily following along through the entire process.
So far as the Heller kit is concerned, I do all my scratch-work in 1/96, for the reason you mention, and also because 1/8”:1’ is a very simple calculation to keep in mind.
Yes; butI have been at this kit on-and-off, because searching and writing this document has somewhat saturated me with the subject
)I did however added the extra gun ports on the rear quarterdeck and poopdeck by moving the side window just a tiny bit back in order to ad the fifth round gunport with the right measurement; as for the poopdeck, I forwarded the gun port a bit to have decent space for the extra one behind it; the galeries are opened and the inner decoration is done....I will post a pic of what modifications I did, but I'm nowhere close to finishing it
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I would love to see your progress. In order to avoid hijacking Nigel’s log, you should consider opening a build-page for your model. I will happily join on to that as well.
Guy, this is an outstanding document.Good day; if you can easily read French, here is a document I made that can give you some tips on the ship's history and overall look of the before and after the refit....Let me know if there are details you would like some explanation on
I am currently building le Soleil Royal (see https://shipsofscale.com/sosforums/threads/1669-soleil-royal-zhl.6332/) and I am currently installing the sails
I have hard time finding a plan on rigging the various sails
Would you have a recommendation?
I have a book with an extensive part on rigging in general for English, French and some other navies; it is in the references at the end of the document and is called ''Encyclopédie Navale des Modèles réduits'' from Wolfram zu Mondfeld; my version is in French but you can find it in English language
Super,
merci beaucoup
J'ai aussi ce bouquin en anglais. Il est excellent.
I have this book too... and it is excellent for the newbies like me. And a must, it is a pleasure to read too, not only watch th figures LOL.
Thanks Everyone,feel like all eyes on me
Good job I had a productive day
Well my plans are to trim 2mm off the edges of all bulkheads for the stringer that supports the lower gun deck.The idea being is that a layer of 2mm planking will be applied taking the surface level with the lower section of bulkheads.This will NOT be glued to the bulkheads. The idea being is that the upper section of bulkheads will be removed giving me an open hull which will have three layers of planking topsides for strength. I thought I had better explain now then all subsequent updates will make more sense.
Back to the keel.The kit parts are in the last picture for reference. Firstly I milled notches for the bulkheads in their new positions. I have made new stem pieces and keel from 6mm English Boxwood (stash again ) and fitted these to the kit false keel after first cutting a rabbet.Only one scarph out of necessity.As I said I am painting the model so I am not wasting time replicating multiple joints to be covered by paint.The section of the false keel has been cut back level with the underside of the lower gun deck and the bowsprit notch lengthened to below the level of this deck.
Kind Regards
Nigel
Good job I had a productive dayWell my plans are to trim 2mm off the edges of all bulkheads for the stringer that supports the lower gun deck.The idea being is that a layer of 2mm planking will be applied taking the surface level with the lower section of bulkheads.This will NOT be glued to the bulkheads. The idea being is that the upper section of bulkheads will be removed giving me an open hull which will have three layers of planking topsides for strength. I thought I had better explain now then all subsequent updates will make more sense.
Back to the keel.The kit parts are in the last picture for reference. Firstly I milled notches for the bulkheads in their new positions. I have made new stem pieces and keel from 6mm English Boxwood (stash again ) and fitted these to the kit false keel after first cutting a rabbet.Only one scarph out of necessity.As I said I am painting the model so I am not wasting time replicating multiple joints to be covered by paint.The section of the false keel has been cut back level with the underside of the lower gun deck and the bowsprit notch lengthened to below the level of this deck.
Kind Regards
Nigel