revell uss constitution 1/96 scale standing and running rigging instructions?

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Recently ordered a 1/196 scale Constitution and oh boy....no blocks to be found, much less decent rigging instructions. I've built 2 of the 1/96 scale monsters over the last 35+ years and want to add rigging to this smaller one. I'll be making my own blocks out of small rectangular styrene rod. Anyone have the running/standing rigging instructions for the 1/96 scale kit they can share? No luck on line. I'm hoping I can download/copy them to build the smaller ship. Any help appreciated. Thanx
 
Got lucky. Got the standing and running rigging instructions (pdf)thru hobbico in two separate files. Many thanx.
 
Farmboy said:
Recently ordered a 1/196 scale Constitution and oh boy....no blocks to be found, much less decent rigging instructions. I've built 2 of the 1/96 scale monsters over the last 35+ years and want to add rigging to this smaller one. I'll be making my own blocks out of small rectangular styrene rod. Anyone have the running/standing rigging instructions for the 1/96 scale kit they can share? No luck on line. I'm hoping I can download/copy them to build the smaller ship. Any help appreciated. Thanx
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You can order blocks and line from a number of our supporting companies.
They have a great, high quality assortment at :
Dry Dock Models They are also available at Model Expo and HIS Models and line you can also get at Ropes of Scale, just to name a few. :)

Hope that helps !

Jeff
 
Dry Dock Models is great source of all sizes blocks and tackle needs and much better rope than any kit comes with.

For rigging plans, you might want to check out if Model Shipways/Model Expo has rigging plans for sale.

The plans should be the same regardless of scale, it would just depend on what you feel like putting on a smaller scale ship.
 
Thank you, guys. 'preciate the replies. I plan to start this build sometime in November. I'll take photos on the premise of doing a build log for anyone interested.
 
I do have one more question. Block size. If I don't make them I'm assuming for the 1/196 I should use 2.5mm singles & doubles? I'll measure the dead eyes for the closest size.
 
Many manufactures provide gross oversized blocks and tackles to be cheap with costs.

I think smaller is better for visual effect. I have seen for example, blocks on gun carriages where block size is bigger than cannon barrel diameter.

There are many books on rigging which give standards for size of blocks needed depending on what they are attached to and what job they are doing, as well as what size rope is being used.
 
Farmboy said:
I do have one more question. Block size. If I don't make them I'm assuming for the 1/196 I should use 2.5mm singles & doubles? I'll measure the dead eyes for the closest size.
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In 1:196 it will be really hard to find blocks which are not outscaled - definitely the smallest possible ones.

Imagine a gun tackle block has in real maybe 30cm length, so in scale 1:196 it would be appr. 1,5mm - a model block of 2,5mm would be in real appr. 50cm long. Sometimes it is better not to show something, definitely better than blocks which are much too big.

There are some producers of very small plastic blocks which are specialist for small scale plastic models

f.e. this one with 2mm blocks
www.model-monkey.com

Search Results Page | Model Monkey

www.model-monkey.com www.model-monkey.com

wooden small blocks with 2,5mm you can purchase from @Dry-Dock Models & Parts
drydockmodelsandparts.com

Dry-Dock Models & Parts

Dry - Dock Models & Parts is providing high quality ship model fittings and parts
drydockmodelsandparts.com drydockmodelsandparts.com

maybe also interesting for you:

The Constitution Gun Deck | Naval Historical Foundation

Learn about the equipment and sailors on the gun deck of the historic frigate USS Constitution
navyhistory.org navyhistory.org
 
Many thanks for the info Uwek, I'll be happy to have a look at the added sites and postings you took the time to post for me as well.
I was experimenting earlier today with 1x1, 1x1.5, and 1x2 styrene square and rectangle rod. I drilled out a couple and I think these will work as single and double blocks, my biggest pain is devising a way to cut them all the same size lol. I've always been a custom automodeler, with the odd biplane, Bf109G, and show rod thrown in over the years, but that Faberge egg allure of a boat bristling with blocks and rigging is always there. Both my big Connies have met their end over the years (kids, moves), so, I'm attempting superdetailing my version of Constitution #3 on a smaller (196) scale. Thanks for the support. The hobby needs more sites with this kind of participation.
 
Didn't mean to miss your post Kurt. I agree, at times some blocks look the size of a head from Easter Island in the wrong application. I've been more attuned to model cars (although I also have an A-10 and a few other aircraft waiting to be built) but the process of getting it right usually transcends the genre of modeling one is involved with. I'm looking around to get a feel for where I can get ship parts etc from a more or less local venue. I'll order on line when necessary but I find the shipping costs quite the deterrent in most cases, but I have found a hobby shop in PEI that will fill the bill. Thanks for the help.
 
Uwek said:
In 1:196 it will be really hard to find blocks which are not outscaled - definitely the smallest possible ones.

Imagine a gun tackle block has in real maybe 30cm length, so in scale 1:196 it would be appr. 1,5mm - a model block of 2,5mm would be in real appr. 50cm long. Sometimes it is better not to show something, definitely better than blocks which are much too big.

There are some producers of very small plastic blocks which are specialist for small scale plastic models

f.e. this one with 2mm blocks
www.model-monkey.com

Search Results Page | Model Monkey

www.model-monkey.com www.model-monkey.com

wooden small blocks with 2,5mm you can purchase from @Dry-Dock Models & Parts
drydockmodelsandparts.com

Dry-Dock Models & Parts

Dry - Dock Models & Parts is providing high quality ship model fittings and parts
drydockmodelsandparts.com drydockmodelsandparts.com

maybe also interesting for you:

The Constitution Gun Deck | Naval Historical Foundation

Learn about the equipment and sailors on the gun deck of the historic frigate USS Constitution
navyhistory.org navyhistory.org
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Hi ,we have 1.5mm boxwood blocks

drydockmodelsandparts.com

Boxwood blocks - Single Sheave

Premium Quality Boxwood Rigging Blocks, CNC made and sold in packs of 25 blocks.
drydockmodelsandparts.com drydockmodelsandparts.com
 
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Didn't mean to miss your post Kurt. I agree, at times some blocks look the size of a head from Easter Island in the wrong application. I've been more attuned to model cars (although I also have an A-10 and a few other aircraft waiting to be built) but the process of getting it right usually transcends the genre of modeling one is involved with. I'm looking around to get a feel for where I can get ship parts etc from a more or less local venue. I'll order on line when necessary but I find the shipping costs quite the deterrent in most cases, but I have found a hobby shop in PEI that will fill the bill. Thanks for the help.
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You might try Drydockmodelsandparts.com as they are located in Canada somewhere, so shipping shouldn't be too high as your not crossing national boarders.
dry-dock-model-parts.jpg
 
Farmboy said:
Recently ordered a 1/196 scale Constitution and oh boy....no blocks to be found, much less decent rigging instructions. I've built 2 of the 1/96 scale monsters over the last 35+ years and want to add rigging to this smaller one. I'll be making my own blocks out of small rectangular styrene rod. Anyone have the running/standing rigging instructions for the 1/96 scale kit they can share? No luck on line. I'm hoping I can download/copy them to build the smaller ship. Any help appreciated. Thanx
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You can download various Revell/Monogram instructions here: https://www.hismodel.com/constitution-16

Cheers,
Lars
 
I found rigging instructions from an older Revell USS Constitution kit, much more clear, in tandem with those that came with the kit (Model 5404). Beware: somewhere in the build a step is missing, but easy to figure out. I'm not near my files at present to indicate where. This was the first model boat I started (Aug 2022), but got stuck with the rigging and the pieces to be placed at an angle on the sides of the ship (RA arthritic paws didn't want to cooperate) and went to wooden model boats.

Got "hooked" working with the wood, putting the Revell on the shelf. Went back to it this past spring after a few "primitive" wooden boat kits with minimal rigging that challenged the paws and eyesight, learning how to use reverse tweezers,. When I went back to the Revell, the rigging instructions had me baffled; that's when I went "on the prowl" and found much better for a different model # from years before the #5404. I had a blast of satisfaction as hard to see, can't feel the thread, and felt like I was often in the middle of a cat's cradle interspersed with a spider web, but I got it! Here I learned how to use the reverse tweezers--interesting & helpful for holding thread I can't feel.

Had to re-create the stern's starboard davit for the stern's lifeboat, as it came broken and no loose piece to repair.

In between other UFOs, working 2 or 3 in tandem, I decided to do the "Bits n Pieces" Mayflower because it had bullseyes & despite being primitive/simple rigging it was inexpensive practice as hull was pre-finished. My rigging knots need work . . .

I have progressed to Midwest kits, Bluejacket kits, and several others in the queue as my experience increases!

Have fun with your USS Constitution. Sounds like you are detailing & being more accurate than the kit itself which I find insspiring! Have fun!

Blessings,
KayakGirl

PS--wasn't sure what size was being posted with pics, not sure thumbnails would be easy to see (I can hardly see), so I clicked on enlarge; hope that was an ok thing to do. . .


052023 USS Constitution-FINISHED--side view rigged.jpg052023 USS Constitution-FINISHED--closeup of stern n spanker.jpg052023 USS Constitution FINISHED--bow view.jpg052023 USS Constitution-FINISHED--closeup bk stays.jpg052023 USS Constitution-FINISHED--closeup of yd lifts.jpg minimal rigging, it was fun practice for the paws.
 
Quite the job Kayak Girl, thank you for sharing! I've built two of the larger Constitutions already so I to downloaded standing/running rigging instructions for the 1/96 scale with the aim to applying the rigging to this smaller kit. I don't plan on being devoutly accurate as to how she looked at any given time eg: maybe do the yellow ochre she wore instead of white 1811 - 1812?) to look like an english ship. I recall reading somewhere the fore and main lower masts had rope wolding on them.... pretty sure not in 1812, but I may add a few windings between a few mast rings just to give the eye another shadow to be drawn to. I don't know of any photos of it this way so I'll try to be tasteful lol. Not really partial to near-red canon assemblies either. A few other ideas on the back burner as well.

I applaud your 'work with it' attitude Kayak Girl. Keep us posted.
 
Farmboy said:
Quite the job Kayak Girl, thank you for sharing! I've built two of the larger Constitutions already so I to downloaded standing/running rigging instructions for the 1/96 scale with the aim to applying the rigging to this smaller kit. I don't plan on being devoutly accurate as to how she looked at any given time eg: maybe do the yellow ochre she wore instead of white 1811 - 1812?) to look like an english ship. I recall reading somewhere the fore and main lower masts had rope wolding on them.... pretty sure not in 1812, but I may add a few windings between a few mast rings just to give the eye another shadow to be drawn to. I don't know of any photos of it this way so I'll try to be tasteful lol. Not really partial to near-red canon assemblies either. A few other ideas on the back burner as well.

I applaud your 'work with it' attitude Kayak Girl. Keep us posted.
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Thank you for your kind words!

I don't think mine is at all accurate. OOOH! Yellow ochre sounds nice! Just finished the MS Lowell Dory and loved its original colors with yellow ochre and dark green. Another one near finished and want to paint it to look old/weathered. Lived a few doors from Dynamite Payson, known for the Payson dory. He had 2 in his field that a customer "stiffed" him never paying. They weathered & broke down after years of being in the field. Did a pen/ink with watercolor washes for one of his sons & doing this dory to give to one of my best friends--a niece of Dynamite.

Blessings!
 
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