Metal chains on wooden ships

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Hello dear ones!

From what i've learned in this modeling art, never ever , they told me, you will sea metal anchor chains on wooden hulks. And yet, there it is. Is it only an artist impression or were they really used? Also noticed that modern Hermione uses a metal chain, but I think that's only condition of Class.

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Lucian

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I would have some doubts

The painter George Chambers was born in 1803
the bombardement of Algirs happened in 1816, when the painter was 13
and he painted the painting in 1836 in the age of 33

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The Bombardment of Algiers, 27 August 1816​

In 1816 a squadron under Admiral Sir Edward Pellew was fitted out and sent to Algiers where they arrived, in company with a small Dutch squadron, on 27 August 1816. They sought the release of the British Consul, who had been detained, and over 1000 Christian slaves, many being seamen taken by the Algerines. When they received no reply the fleet bombarded Algiers in the most spectacular of several similar punitive actions of this period that finally broke the power of the 'Barbary pirates', who had been a plague on European commerce in the Mediterranean for centuries. Pellew was subsequently created Viscount Exmouth.

In the foreground of the painting is a barge with a howitzer in the bows and a lieutenant standing at her tiller. To the left of her are two boats, one sunk and the other with sailors rescuing the crew. In the right foreground is a fallen spar and another barge with a carronade in her bow. Beyond her more boats are sheltering under the 'Impregnable', 98 guns, the fore part of whose bow is in the picture. In the left middle distance there are three more boats under the stern of the 'Minden', 74 guns, one of which is about to fire a Congreve rocket. The 'Minden', in port-quarter view, is firing her starboard guns, and partly masks the 'Superb' also in port-quarter view. More boats are sheltering under the port side of their hulls. In the left background can be seen the forepart of the Dutch flagship 'Melampus', 40 guns, in starboard-broadside view and ahead of her the stern of a British frigate. In the middle and right background is the 'Queen Charlotte', 100 guns, in port-quarter view, flying Pellew's blue admiral's flag at the main, and a glimpse of the 'Leander', 50 guns, ahead of her. They are engaged with the batteries of the harbour, engulfed in flame, and the ships burning within it. Above the smoke Algiers can be seen rising up the hills behind.

All Exmouth's aims in the action were achieved: 1083 Christian slaves and the British Consul were liberated, massive restitution paid and peace made between Algiers and the Dutch. Exmouth was raised to a viscountcy and several of his friends and associates, who wanted to commemorate the bombardment, subscribed 200 guineas to commission the artist to paint the event for inclusion in the Naval Gallery at Greenwich Hospital. E. H. Locker, Secretary and Commissioner of the Hospital was a key figure in the matter both because he had been secretary to Pellew, 1804-14, and because he had already (in 1835) commissioned a copy of Benjamin West's 'Battle of La Hogue, 1692' for the Gallery from Chambers, whose most important late work this is.

The artist went to Plymouth to sketch the men-of-war in the production of this painting and the Museum also has a number of the preliminary drawings for it and a freely painted oil study (BHC0615). The finished painting was exhibited in 1837 at the British Institution, as painted for the Hospital, before being put on permanent display in the Naval Gallery there.



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The Bombardment of Algiers, 27 August 1816​

This is the freely painted oil study of George Chambers Senior’s ‘The Bombardment of Algiers, 27 August 1816’ (BHC0617).

In 1816 a squadron under Admiral Sir Edward Pellew was fitted out and sent to Algiers where they arrived, in company with a small Dutch squadron, on 27 August 1816. They sought the release of the British Consul, who had been detained, and over 1000 Christian slaves, many being seamen taken by the Algerines. When they received no reply the fleet bombarded Algiers in the most spectacular of several similar punitive actions of this period that finally broke the power of the 'Barbary pirates', who had been a plague on European commerce in the Mediterranean for centuries. Pellew was subsequently created Viscount Exmouth.

The artist, George Chambers Senior (1803–40), went to Plymouth to sketch the men-of-war in the production of his painting. The NMM has a number of the preliminary drawings for it. In this oil study Chambers laid out the colours and masses of light, shade and smoke with the ‘Impregnable’ on the right and the ‘Minden’ in the left middle distance, as well as the vessels closer to batteries of the harbour, but omitting meticulous detail in favour of an atmospheric impression.


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I think, that at Aligirs the ships did not have any chains, nevertheless the anchor chains were developed slightly afterwards, means 10 or 20 years later, so it could be that the painter saw the first chains during his mentioned studies in Portsmoth he made in 1835


 
and the Hermione replica:
You are right, that she has chains for the anchors, although she is in principle by 98% authentic.
The are using the chain instead of a cable only for safety reasons using also an electric driven spill

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Thanks for all the impressive scholarly work, presentations and explanations. I now know a heck of a lot more than when I woke up this morning!RedfaceThumbsup
I'd like to see the painting of the Battle of La Hogue. A battle in which I have some interest. It is not unreasonable to believe that Mary Reed (later to become a pirate) may have been there, having run away to sea, joined the Navy disguised as a young adolescent, and been inducted into the Marines (no less)at right around that time(1692) according to the inimitable Captain Charles Johnson, author of "the Histories and Murders of the Most Notorious Pyrates".
Reed subsequently went on to become a Cavelry"man" in Flanders.
"Her true nature having been discovered by her tent mate" they married and opened an Inn in Belgium, which was successful until the war ended, her husband died and business dried up. Mary sold the Inn and left for the New World ( again disguised as a man) and was captured by pirates with whom she threw in her lot. (this is no bull! Honest!) :rolleyes:
"Aaaar!"
Pete
 
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I have used chain link on models of years before chain was commonly made and used because it is easy and convenient to model but not for anchors. For example I have used chain link for deadeyes on models of ships before chain link was really invented and used regularly in ships…lazy research in my part…
 
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