Panart: San Felipe 1:75 Scale Build Log

Donnie

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Thank you Gary and others. I wish that I had more time to visit everyones elses build logs... maybe that will come later. I am FINALLY over the hump of getting all this Stern Lighting done. The switch is mounted and all the wiring and 9 Vdc Battery is hidden inside the Gallery. There will be more brass decorations that will go around the mid (blue) stern from side all the way around to distract from the cutout that I made (trap door) for battery.

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Bob,
I personally do not think you have any "love lost" when you sold it. This kit is good only in the fact that it has a lot of laser cut parts for you. BUT, it negates this in the fact that a lot of the parts do not fit well or needing a lot of TLC to make it all fit right. I am putting in a whole lot of extra time in this thing trying to make something out of it. If someone where to build this thing "as is" with no consideration of fitment, there is no telling what this ship would look like. (I mean, probably horrible).
When I first popped the lid on the box, I was really amazed. But that amazement has worn off. :oops:
I think there is a china version of this kit that is slightly larger in size and is far better. The ply wood is probably THE most strange. The ply parts are separated by a thin sheet of paper. No kidding.
If someone can build this, they can probably build almost anything thrown at them. The plans are good with a lot of 3D drawings. One MAJOR flaw of this ship that I was able to catch before building it was the height of the Cannon Port Lids vs. The height of the Cannon Barrels. In other words, if you built the frame and bulwarks just like they say do, then you will have to wind up REMOVING the wheels on the carriages (which lowers the Barrels overall) so that they will protrude at center of the port lids. I was able to prevent this from happening by doing a lot of research and reading about a lot of unhappy modelers that found this out when it was time to install the Cannons/Carriages on deck. The center line of the Barrels where NO where near the center of Ports. Obviously no one wants to do this, so most folks have to build their own carriages (shorter in height) to make the Cannons be center. If I remember, the offset was like 3mm off. It is enough (at that scale) to not work. it is interesting that even in the manual, the builder has the Cannons pointing downward as the ports are mounted way to low on the deck.

If you look at these post, you will see what I mean as how I did the work around.
https://www.shipsofscale.com/sosfor...e-1-75-scale-build-log.1020/page-3#post-16474
https://www.shipsofscale.com/sosfor...e-1-75-scale-build-log.1020/page-5#post-16592


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My bad Donnie. I thought you were building the Chinese version which is the one I had. It was a pretty decent kit with a lot of really nice resin castings for all of the decorations. I just lost interest in the model. POB kits don't do much for me any more after 30 years of building them.I'm only interested in POF now.

I've encountered that gunport problem myself with a few kits. It can really mess you up if you don't use the forethought to make up a cannon before you plank and frame the hull and gunports. I teach that lesson in many of my practicums.

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Bob,
I personally do not think you have any "love lost" when you sold it. This kit is good only in the fact that it has a lot of laser cut parts for you. BUT, it negates this in the fact that a lot of the parts do not fit well or needing a lot of TLC to make it all fit right. I am putting in a whole lot of extra time in this thing trying to make something out of it. If someone where to build this thing "as is" with no consideration of fitment, there is no telling what this ship would look like. (I mean, probably horrible).
When I first popped the lid on the box, I was really amazed. But that amazement has worn off. :oops:
I think there is a china version of this kit that is slightly larger in size and is far better. The ply wood is probably THE most strange. The ply parts are separated by a thin sheet of paper. No kidding.
If someone can build this, they can probably build almost anything thrown at them. The plans are good with a lot of 3D drawings. One MAJOR flaw of this ship that I was able to catch before building it was the height of the Cannon Port Lids vs. The height of the Cannon Barrels. In other words, if you built the frame and bulwarks just like they say do, then you will have to wind up REMOVING the wheels on the carriages (which lowers the Barrels overall) so that they will protrude at center of the port lids. I was able to prevent this from happening by doing a lot of research and reading about a lot of unhappy modelers that found this out when it was time to install the Cannons/Carriages on deck. The center line of the Barrels where NO where near the center of Ports. Obviously no one wants to do this, so most folks have to build their own carriages (shorter in height) to make the Cannons be center. If I remember, the offset was like 3mm off. It is enough (at that scale) to not work. it is interesting that even in the manual, the builder has the Cannons pointing downward as the ports are mounted way to low on the deck.

If you look at these post, you will see what I mean as how I did the work around.
https://www.shipsofscale.com/sosfor...e-1-75-scale-build-log.1020/page-3#post-16474
https://www.shipsofscale.com/sosfor...e-1-75-scale-build-log.1020/page-5#post-16592


Sad to hear your impressions. I used to like the European kits when I first built them 4 decades ago. Usually very good wood and parts, maybe not so accurate but made beautiful models for the most. No real improvements since then and have gone backwards in many respects.
 

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More ornamentation on the hull. I also worked on the Bow and added some pieces (gratings) to the deck. I can't say enough how much effort it is taking to make this ship come out looking half way ok. At first, I was very impressed with the amount of laser cut pieces, but I am finding out more and more how those pieces have to have serious adjustments to make fit. I really want to push through to get his one done and over with.

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Thanks Mike. It is beating me down trying to make it look like something.
I can't follow the instructions on how they want me to do these "struts" underneath, so I am just doing the best that I can think of. The brass struts nailed to the plank under the bow. Crap, I can't think of the name of that section other than bow, but I know that section has a name to it. Shame on me. :-( Well, hey, just because I am the admin, certainly does not mean I know everything - I will tell anyone that I do not.

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