Just catching up on your latest post Donnie. The planking has come up really nice and I do hope you treenail it.
Panart: San Felipe 1:75 Scale Build Log [COMPLETED BUILD]
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G'day Donnie
Havta agree with Brian. Brilliant work on the planking. I have done the same thing about treenails as you are planning many times. I recond if it works and looks good, it's not cheating, it's smart!
Havagooday mate
Greg
Havta agree with Brian. Brilliant work on the planking. I have done the same thing about treenails as you are planning many times. I recond if it works and looks good, it's not cheating, it's smart!
Havagooday mate
Greg
Hi Donnie,
On my Sovereign of The Seas 1637 model the scale was 1:78 and thus treenails were rather small and difficult to make. I decided to simulate them in the following way. I set a pair of drafting dividers with two metal points at a distance needed to make two holes in the plank end look like treenails. Gently pressing the points into the plank makes the holes. I then used a mechanical pencil with a 5B lead sharpened to a point to darken the holes. You twirl the lead point in each hole and it darkens it enough to simulate a treenail. Then I rubbed the planking with 0000 steel wool to remove any imperfections surrounding the holes.
They were darkened just enough to simulate treenails that had been exposed to seawater and sunlight without looking overbearing.
Hope that helps.
Bill
On my Sovereign of The Seas 1637 model the scale was 1:78 and thus treenails were rather small and difficult to make. I decided to simulate them in the following way. I set a pair of drafting dividers with two metal points at a distance needed to make two holes in the plank end look like treenails. Gently pressing the points into the plank makes the holes. I then used a mechanical pencil with a 5B lead sharpened to a point to darken the holes. You twirl the lead point in each hole and it darkens it enough to simulate a treenail. Then I rubbed the planking with 0000 steel wool to remove any imperfections surrounding the holes.
They were darkened just enough to simulate treenails that had been exposed to seawater and sunlight without looking overbearing.
Hope that helps.
Bill
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Bill
That is a great idea for members on how to simulate treenails. Thank you for sharing you idea.
Cheers
Geoff
That is a great idea for members on how to simulate treenails. Thank you for sharing you idea.
Cheers
Geoff
It's good to see you working on this again Donnie, I have learnt a lot of things about ship building from you and the other member's comments,
Cheers Andy
Cheers Andy
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False treenails. Made holes with 1mm bit. Sanded 1000 grit. Wipe dust off dry towel. Painted with Polyurethane satin no gloss. Sanded again with 1000 grit. Painted with Polyurethane satin no gloss. The gloss that you see is that I just finished painting. When dry, boards look dull.
False treenails. Made holes with 1mm bit. Sanded 1000 grit. Wipe dust off dry towel. Painted with Polyurethane satin no gloss. Sanded again with 1000 grit. Painted with Polyurethane satin no gloss. The gloss that you see is that I just finished painting. When dry, boards look dull.
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Love the look of the trennals Donnie. They look very realistic.
Bill
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I agree to Donnie
Glad to see you getting back into the shipyard
Cheers
Geoff
Glad to see you getting back into the shipyard
Cheers
Geoff
very impressive
Thank you every one for your kind words. I was able to do a lot on the San Felipe this afternoon making the other side treenails and some other touch ups before I move on to the next part.
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I have always admired this model. Several of my friends have completed it and it always looks so magnificent. Yours is no exception.
Bill
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Donnie
I know what you have done recently in the way of the tree nailing ans shared with member on SOS, All I can do is admire. Your excellent craftmanship. Being a member of SOS and getting feedback on my builds is great.
Cheers
Geoff
I know what you have done recently in the way of the tree nailing ans shared with member on SOS, All I can do is admire. Your excellent craftmanship. Being a member of SOS and getting feedback on my builds is great.
Cheers
Geoff
Nothing major, just installing the lower wales. Yes, with treenails this time.
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Thanks every one. Well, I learn from here and still learning.... so, heres the latest. Finished one side of the lower wales and stained them. The walnut 2x4 is very brittle and kind of hard to work with.
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Donnie
We are all learning and by a forum like SOS we all contribute and learn.
Cheers
Geoff
We are all learning and by a forum like SOS we all contribute and learn.
Cheers
Geoff
Here, here Geoff.
Well said.
My grandfather once told me, the day that you don't learn, it's time to die! I have always try to keep that saying close to my heart.
Havagooday to all.
Greg
Well said.
My grandfather once told me, the day that you don't learn, it's time to die! I have always try to keep that saying close to my heart.
Havagooday to all.
Greg
I love your work on this beautiful ship model. You are doing a wonderful job! I have this kit but I also have other projects going before I start.
Anyway, I have read comments on other forums that this ship didn't really exist because the manufacturer's history gives a date of 1690. However, I have found evidence that there was a Spanish ship-of-the-line commissioned in 1732 named Real Felipe that was often called San Felipe. Contemporary drawings and paintings show that this ship strongly resembled the Panart kit. I firmly believe that the model depicts the Real Felipe (San Felipe) of 1732.
Bill
Anyway, I have read comments on other forums that this ship didn't really exist because the manufacturer's history gives a date of 1690. However, I have found evidence that there was a Spanish ship-of-the-line commissioned in 1732 named Real Felipe that was often called San Felipe. Contemporary drawings and paintings show that this ship strongly resembled the Panart kit. I firmly believe that the model depicts the Real Felipe (San Felipe) of 1732.
Bill
HI Bill,
yep, I have come across similar comments about the ship as well. With little or no documentation it is really difficult to make it as accurate, but I can live with what has been done so far. The latest is installing the round Gun Port Frames.
yep, I have come across similar comments about the ship as well. With little or no documentation it is really difficult to make it as accurate, but I can live with what has been done so far. The latest is installing the round Gun Port Frames.
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Does it really matter whether the model is a replica of a "real" ship. You are doing a great job and the model will stand alone as a testament to your modelling skills. I think many people get too hung up on whether a particular kit is an accurate representation of an actual ship in history. For instance, I have a kit of the USS Lexington, which the experts agree is totally inaccurate. I like the looks of the model and will strive to make it as realistic as I can, regardless of the name they decided to give the kit. The important thing is that you enjoy creating a smart looking model that you are proud of. 99 people out of 100 won't know and don't care whether it is an accurate representation of a real ship.