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Are there kits out there that you can built without the whole roper work? Or are there some People that are building kits and leave alle the ropes away? ( no rigging ). Ik know its about 35%of the beauty of the ship.
 
Are there kits out there that you can built without the whole roper work? Or are there some People that are building kits and leave alle the ropes away? ( no rigging ). Ik know its about 35%of the beauty of the ship.
First of all..... @dj56 : Some women without clothes are also interesting.....
@Pat71 : I guess you mean the rigging of a sailing ship, or?
I never saw a model without the rigging, or only unfinished ones......technically you need the standing rigging, that the masts will be stabile and the running rigging, to move the yards and sails, so technically a historic sailing ship needs rigging.
Nevertheless there are the so called Navy Board Models which are often represented without rigging, but also without the masts and yards.
This special style of ship model building was developed in England during first part of the 17th century.
This style is alternatively called Admiralty models, Dockyard models, or Navy Board models.
The shipwrights and ship designers used this way to explain the board the construction specialities of a certain class or a special ship. I guess, that these guys from the board couldn´t read the drawings, so they needed the models to get convinced. In the National Maritime Museum in UK more or less all historic contmeporary models still exist, so we knoa a lot of the old construction methods.....At these models often no masts and rigging was installed.

Look f.e. at this Book review:
Navy Board Ship Models, 1650 - 1750
 
Tnx for Your answer. See also open ships or hulls on internet
 
Want to built one from scratch and the plans in have to practice
 
If you prefer sailing ships, you are stuck with rigging, unless you leave them half-completed. Personally, I find the rigging is far easier than making the hull, espcially when using wire, and having no knots anywhere, just gluing it on in short lengths. Also, small ones are much quicker and easier to build than large ones.
Bob
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Think i have to live with it. Is it easyer to do rigging first and all the sails after?
 
Well, I couldn't do it on any scale! I would find fitting sails to a ship where the rigging is complete, impossible. I do some rigging, then some sails, more rigging, and more sails until they are complete. This is a ship partially rigged and as you can see, I haven't even put the second mast in at this stage. Bob
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Well, yes, there are model ships that are built with NO rigging at all. The Mast are not installed. The ship is basically displayed as a Navy Board Model type. In this situation, just the hull is only needed and built. This approach is legitament and is practiced from time to time.
 
The actual rigging is far easier than building the hull, especially when it comes to Napoleonic warships. Although rigging is easy, it can be extremely tedious and time-consuming when using twine and knots. If you can build the hull, you will be able to rig it (unless you convince yourself that you can't before you try)
Bob
 
I have bad bones because of several diseases. Take about 24 pills a day.Hurt every Day. When i Do the rigging my neck and head hurt with in 20 minutes. The pain comes trough the morfine and other painkillers i use daily. Working with wood goes better with all my electrical tools. So i am looking for a solutionfor the rigging to make it easyer.
 
I have bad bones because of several diseases. Take about 24 pills a day.Hurt every Day. When i Do the rigging my neck and head hurt with in 20 minutes. The pain comes trough the morfine and other painkillers i use daily. Working with wood goes better with all my electrical tools. So i am looking for a solutionfor the rigging to make it easyer.

Sad to hear. Than you should think about to build f.e. Section models or these mentioned navy board models without masts etc.
this brings also a lot of fun and is relaxing, because you have 99% work with timber.....think about it
 
Also sorry to hear that. I find tying knots too stressful and time-consuming, and that is why I rig in wire, just glued on. It takes about ten seconds to put a backstay on! Imagewire rigging (Large).JPG shows me picking up a piece of rigging ready to place it in position after dipping each end in glue - nothing easier! Bob
 
Ik will give it a try with glue. I like the old ships to much. My heart beats faster when i see them in movies like blacksails or master and commander with master russel
 
Stretch the wire slightly with two small pairs of pliers. It will not spring back like an elastic band when released. Pick it up in middle with tweezers as shown, dip each end in glue, and place it in position. I got the curve on it by gently stroking finger and thumb along it, whilst holding the end with tweezers. The greater the pressure, the greater the curve. You cannot get natural curves like this with twine. The other piece has been left straight!
Bob
 
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