Halifax Build Log: Lumberyard

donfarr

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THANKS BRIAN, Dave what is the manufactuers name of the E6000 glue and can I get it through Amozon, 2 more things on the setern the back of the resin piece or wood backingg can be seen from the bow looking aft which I was going to paint black, ether with the wood backing or just the resin piece, will do the paint as you sugested,,, the other thing driving me nuts is the fashion pieces starboard and port and how they blend in with the wales trying to see if I can get it like the pictures in Hahns Book will show them after I cut the model from the Jig,,, right now markinf the deck clamp locations on the model just dry fitting the clamps using scraps when satified I will glue the permanant ones in place. THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HELP Don,,,
 

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E 6000 is very common I see it from Home Depot to the local Wallgreens and all over the internet.

I see what you are saying about the back of the stern piece it shows

so yes a backing piece will work as long as it is thin enough and bends to the arc of the stern. You can try your hand at painting first and if that does not work then use a wood backing.

the best place to get tips and information on finishing is to check out model railroad forums and plastic kit forums. These guys have methods of painting so you could not tell if it is wood or rusted metal, ivory, or weathered wood, old wood.

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the other thing driving me nuts is the fashion pieces starboard and port and how they blend in with the wales trying to see if I can get it like the pictures in Hahns Book will show them after I cut the model from the Jig,,,

no doubt about it Don some aspects of the build are fussy and that molding at the sides of the stern is one of them. if you have access to the Hahn archives you may want to sort through some photos of the Hahn models. Some other ships have a better picture of those moldings.

some time ago I think on the old Yahoo Ships in Scale forum there was a topic about if stern carvings and figureheads were painted in colors. It might of come down to yes they were all painted bright colors. I kind of remember the Mary Rose had bits of paint still on the carvings.

anyhow I got this photo of a Halifax model by a builder who painted the stern and then weathered it fantastic looking sorry to say that was long ago and lost or I would post it.
 
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another idea for the stern is to cut out the back round where I drew the red dotted line so the carving piece is separate where I filled in black your wood backing piece will show through

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looking at your last picture that molding piece setting along the edge of the stern piece. I see an arrow should the piece be flipped? the arc looks odd to me
 

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Thanks Dave GREAT IDEA ON THE CUTTING OUT OF THE DECORATION, also makes painting easier, WONDERFULL, yes the curve of the molding piece looks wrong but when I turn the model over it looks right will show a picyure of what it looks like right side up and the pattern is right on, the picture showing the fashion piece should be turned the fit is much better when the top becomes the bottom; more questions latter on the beams and ledges
 

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Dave misunderstod your last item on the molding piece yes it should be fipped over and it needs more work to be done on it
 

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THANKS GEOFF THE NEW SYSTEM IS WONDERFULL TO ME, do not need to resize the picyure ius a BIG TIME SAVING HELP, IF I CAN DO IT IT MUST BE GOOD. AGAIN THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP, JUST GOT STARTED ON MY BLANFORD BUILD DOING THE KEEL and SHOE FIRST, WILL POST PICTURES SOON ON THE BLOANFORD SITE> THANKS AGAIN Don
 

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I agree Don

There are a series of videos that Donnie put together to help members and they are at the top page of the forum. They are well worth watching. I have locked at some of them and will watch the all. I new of your concerns moving to a new system. Sometimes a change is vey good and at your age is not that easy but I think you caught on quickly

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deck clamps finished, showing one ledger strip,,,question for Daves, where does the ledger beams and main beams end(AT THE FACE OF THE FRAMES OR INTERIOR ENDS OF THE FRAMES OR AS I CAN MAKE OUT FROM HAHN DRAWINGS THE CENTER OF THE FRAMES,,,,,will start to cut the model from the jig think now has enough support

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progress pictures showing the model cut from jig, sanding frame tops to correct cut offs, and starting the main deck beams and ledger beams, awainting an order of tamiya paint to paint the stern decoration and hopefully get the stern completed, the stern has really had me stumped but will pursue to my best ability 20180130_203120[2543].jpg 20180130_203120[2543].jpg 20180125_012258[2524].jpg 20180125_012548[2526].jpg 20180130_203120[2543].jpg 20180125_012258[2524].jpg 20180125_012548[2526].jpg 20180130_203402[2541].jpg 20180130_203236[2542].jpg 20180130_203120[2543].jpg 20180125_012258[2524].jpg 20180125_012548[2526].jpg 20180130_203402[2541].jpg 20180130_203236[2542].jpg 20180130_203120[2543].jpg 20180125_012258[2524].jpg 20180125_012548[2526].jpg 20180130_203402[2541].jpg 20180130_203236[2542].jpg
 
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deck clamps finished, showing one ledger strip,,,question for Daves, where does the ledger beams and main beams end(AT THE FACE OF THE FRAMES OR INTERIOR ENDS OF THE FRAMES OR AS I CAN MAKE OUT FROM HAHN DRAWINGS THE CENTER OF THE FRAMES,,,,,will start to cut the model from the jig think now has enough support

these photos are from the Hahn archives

by the way your work is impressive it is actually a Hahn reproduction built frame by frame timber for timber in your style. Very well done
student becomes master
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THANK YOU VERY. THANKS AGAIN Don MUCH Dave, NO WAY AM I THE MASTER, YOU ARE AS MY MENTOR ANY SECUSSES IS DO TO YOU, WILL SILL NEED YOUR HELP ON THE STERN, waiting for paint that I ordered , hopefully next week I will start on the stern and fashion piecess
 

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THANK YOU VERY. THANKS AGAIN Don MUCH Dave, NO WAY AM I THE MASTER, YOU ARE AS MY MENTOR ANY SUCCESS IS DO TO YOU, WILL SILL NEED YOUR HELP ON THE STERN, waiting for paint that I ordered , hopefully next week I will start on the stern and fashion pieces

I should have said student on your way to master builder
Now you are developing your skill set and getting an understanding of how wooden ships were built.


joe and I are working on a 3D model of the Halifax as a building aid so you will be able to view the stern from any angle and see how it all fits together. This is a big under taking and requires time and CAD skills but it is in the planning stages. If you build faster than we can create the 3D model I will do whatever I can to help you along.
 
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