Peter von Danzig Building Log

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Peter von Danzig Building Log

Post by Tadeusz » Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:38 pm

Peter von Danzig was a 15th-century ship of the Hanseatic League. It was the first large vessel in the Baltic Sea featuring carvel planking.
Under flag of Hanseatic City Danzig ( now Gdansk) she was fighting on Northern Sea as privateer.
Model is build in scale 1:75.
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2.First planking
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3. Second planking with veneer strips( after filling and sanding)
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4. Staining and painting
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5. Hull partly equipped with fittings, after six weeks of full time work .
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Re: Peter von Danzig Building Log

Post by GaryM » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:45 pm

Great workmanship. How did you know this much about a ship built in the 1400's?
Happy modeling,
Gary Maple

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Re: Peter von Danzig Building Log

Post by Anja » Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:19 am

Hello Tadeusz,

Welcome and thanks for sharing.

Beautiful ship. It looks great. I really love the dark color of the wood.

Take care,

Anja

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Re: Peter von Danzig Building Log

Post by Tadeusz » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:27 pm

Hello Garry,
Our knowledge about ancient form this period is very coarse.
Some information about appearance of the ship from various periods is possible find
in paintings and engraving as also sometimes from period models.
Details of construction and equipment are available thanks of submarine archeology.
On base of this knowledge and study was built several replicas of period ships.
Every above sources are inspirited for ship modelers but knobby knows actual appearance,
all models are only an approximation.
I have seen two different models of PvD , plans I bought are also different.
My model to be also approximation .
Before start with new project I try find information about ships of such period from my archive,
books as also from “Uncle Google”
I am naval architect and shipbuilder (ret.) it help me understand technology and conditions
of ancient shipbuilding.
Sources
1.Historia żaglowców (History of sail boats) by Franco Giorgetti ISBN 978-83-7705-12-4
2. Historic ship models by Wolfram zu Mondfeld ISBN 1-4027-2186-2
3. Dawne żaglowce (Ancient sailing ships) by P.Smolarek ed.1986
My models:
From kits
Vasa
HMS Victor
Le Solei Royale
Friesland
From scratch
HMS Warrior 1860
Esplanade
Grosse Yacht
Norman’s ship
HMS Speedy
La Royale
Current project
Peter von Danzig

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Re: Peter von Danzig Building Log

Post by GaryM » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:11 pm

I have a good reference library and do as much searching as I can. However, I only have Mondfeld's book of the 3 you mentioned.
Interesting that the plans and other models do not agree. There is so much unknown the further back you go. Even the 17th century leaves a lot of holes but was far better than the previous century.
Nice list of models. Do you keep all of them or sell of the oldest one as you replace it with a new completion?
Happy modeling,
Gary Maple

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Current build: Sergal Sovereign of the Seas
In Que: Sergal: Cutty Sark and Amerigo Vespucci; Billings Titanic
Completed: Amati: HMS Prince (old 1:78 version); Billings: Norske Love and Vasa; Mantua: La Couronne; Sergal: Mississippi Riverboat and La Soleil Royal

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Re: Peter von Danzig Building Log

Post by Tadeusz » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:16 pm

I was too hurry there are pictures for previous post.
Tadeusz
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Carrack.jpg
Carrack model from engraving (source 2)
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Engraving of holk ( source 3)
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Caravel (souce 1)
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Caravels (souce 1)
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Peter von Danzig model in Maritime Museum in Gdańsk
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Peter von Danzig model in Navy Museum in Gdynia
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Vasa in Museum in Stockholm
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Mary Rose during conservation works
in Historick Dock in Portsmouth
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Lisa von Lubeck contemporary replica
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Lisa von Lubeck contemporary replica
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Plans of PvD I work with
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Re: Peter von Danzig Building Log

Post by GaryM » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:33 pm

I like the models and the replica. If you are lucky enough to see and board a replica, it give you a feeling of what life was like back then. I was able to sail on the Hawaiian Chieftain when it was here last December and it was a memorable experience.
Happy modeling,
Gary Maple

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Current build: Sergal Sovereign of the Seas
In Que: Sergal: Cutty Sark and Amerigo Vespucci; Billings Titanic
Completed: Amati: HMS Prince (old 1:78 version); Billings: Norske Love and Vasa; Mantua: La Couronne; Sergal: Mississippi Riverboat and La Soleil Royal

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Re: Peter von Danzig Building Log

Post by Tadeusz » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:35 pm

Block manufacture.
Proper size and shape of rigging blocks is very important for final view of our model.
See my way to sucess.
Tadeusz
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Period blocks in museums and replicas in Batavia Shipyard (Lelystad Netherland)
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Blocks and parrals in Mary Rose Museum (Portsmouth UK)
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Craftsman producing blocks
( Maritime Museum Stockholm)
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Jigs for block
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Jigs for block
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Milling of grove for rope wrapping ( jig #1 used)
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Drilling of separating holes – the larger distance between is length of block ( jig #1 used)
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Drilling of rope holes, number of holes = number of block shaves ( jig #2 used)
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Wooden strip with grove and holes ready to be cut on single blocks
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Strip cutting for single blocks
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Jig #3 for holding blocks during sanding for proper shape
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Preliminary sanding
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Mini sanding machine
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Final shaping
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Block after retouching with micro sanding machine and staining, ready for rigging.
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Re: Peter von Danzig Building Log

Post by cog » Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:48 am

Impressive build. It really is a massive ship to see. My compliments.

Some very nifty jigs you have made!
Cheers,
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Re: Peter von Danzig Building Log

Post by Tadeusz » Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:26 pm

Hello Gary,
I still have all my works on display in my livingroom.
Tadeusz
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