A.L. Marina II Continuation

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Re: A.L. Marina II Continuation

Postby eric61 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:03 am

Finally, when I turned the boat over, I saw a big gap .
I may cut the last five inches out and redo/reshape the last section.
It is now 8.00 pm and dinner is out of the way, time to relax, I shall go and watch some gratuitous violence on TV.

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In queue: Marina II Fishing Boat by Artesania Latina
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Re: A.L. Marina II Continuation

Postby popeye » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:56 pm

nice progress on this build ;-)
finished builds:
Nordkap 476 / Cux 87 / Gundalow
Mary Ann / Susan A. / M&M fun ship
Phylly C & Denny-Zen / AmericA
Andrea Gail

in cue:
Gothenborg
Half Moon
Boulogne Etaples
trawler Syborn
U.S.S. United States
Holiday Harbor
Titanic
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Re: A.L. Marina II Continuation

Postby eric61 » Mon May 15, 2017 9:29 pm

Hi Popeye, thanks for your comment and sorry I took so long acknowleging.

Some further progress, FIRST what I am about to show and discuss here is absolutely no reflection on Donnie or his skills, it is a common mistake that I have done myself on two models already.
The picture at the top of this page illustrates the problem that I'm sure many modellers have created inadvertantly, shaping the stern not using a plank to test 435 angles when sanding the bulkheads, as I stated I have done it twice!
So, how can one fix this "problem" a lot of cut and paste, cutting small pieces of wood, shaping then pasting(glue). (664/669) shows how I fitted the planks onto the stern keel. I had originally mitred the ends to line up with the dark line down the centre of the keel but the glue did not hold (even using CA glue). They needed a greater surface to adhere to, hence the alternating pattern.
(665) They alternated to this stage, now because the way the bulkhead, middle of picture, actually second last bulkhead of ship, was shaped it caused the planks to sit a bit higher, consequently at the triangular gap the planks are 4mm higher than the keel, solution = a lot of cut and paste! (666/668)
(667) This is one of those Mmmmmm! moments when the strip one labouriously trimmed and shaped got broked while taking it out after a dry fit that was way too tight - TWICE! there is another one on the other side of the hull. I am sorely tempted to put a piece of masking tape underneath and the fill it in with wood filler.
Dear reader, this is what makes this such an annoyingly frustrating but so damningly enjoyable a hobby.
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Cook's Endeavour - current,
Sovereign of the Seas - current (deAgostini)
In queue: Marina II Fishing Boat by Artesania Latina
In queue: Mayflower by Model Shipways

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Re: A.L. Marina II Continuation

Postby popeye » Tue May 23, 2017 8:35 am

I've done the Mary Ann and the Cux 87.....billing's kits, and they have the same stern design. they were a pain to plank ;-) you've done something in the idea of a herringbone design......ties them in quite well. the last picture is interesting......one would think a stealer, but by trimming out planking on both sides of the gap {equivalent to the width of the planking your using}, you could jog in a short piece of planking.

well done on the planking.....you've achieved a nice contour! ;-)
finished builds:
Nordkap 476 / Cux 87 / Gundalow
Mary Ann / Susan A. / M&M fun ship
Phylly C & Denny-Zen / AmericA
Andrea Gail

in cue:
Gothenborg
Half Moon
Boulogne Etaples
trawler Syborn
U.S.S. United States
Holiday Harbor
Titanic
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Re: A.L. Marina II Continuation

Postby popeye » Tue May 23, 2017 8:47 am

catching up with the rest of your log, I noticed you were looking for ideas for the bow. Donnie had a fairly good thought going there.....the bow stem is what.....3/16 thick. planking would make it thicker. the way I prep the planking for the bow, is to cut at an angle for the contour and then bevel it to reduce the thickness. with the bow shaped like that, beveling is not needed. let the planking give you the flat edge to the bow, and them round the edges, to give you the blunt point.

you probably have this done already.....
finished builds:
Nordkap 476 / Cux 87 / Gundalow
Mary Ann / Susan A. / M&M fun ship
Phylly C & Denny-Zen / AmericA
Andrea Gail

in cue:
Gothenborg
Half Moon
Boulogne Etaples
trawler Syborn
U.S.S. United States
Holiday Harbor
Titanic

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