Atesania Latina kit HMS Supply

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Atesania Latina kit HMS Supply

Postby fragle123 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:02 am

Hi all
This will be my first attempt at building a period ship and so the most daunting task ahead of me at the moment will be when i come to do the rigging and sails i think.
Ok more about the kit itself, it is from Artesania Latina and upon opening the box things look good it has a comprehensive set of instructions for the rigging and a basic set of instructions for the building side of things in multiple languages plus a small booklet with pictures of each step inside and full scale colour plans.
A lot of the fittings are cast metal which look like good quality but i may change some of these and reconstruct my own in wood, i will make my mind up about that at a later stage when i see how they look after being painted, if they don’t look right then i will redo them.
I do not take any interest in researching the history of a ship other than what historical data comes with it, I do this for the pure pleasure and satisfaction of building something and making it look as good as I can, and the only thing I know about this ship is that it was the first ship that left the UK carrying convicts for Australia in 1788.
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Re: Atesania Latina kit HMS Supply

Postby catopower » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:54 pm

Hi Fragle123,

Glad to see you starting a build log on your HMS Supply. I'm working on a modified Artesania Latina Colonial Schooner kit, myself. If your kit is like mine, I think you'll enjoy the build. I think you picked a very good subject as it is well document and not just some fictional vessel, like the Colonial Schooner. And, being that it's a brig, you'll have a little less rigging to deal with than with a full-rigged ship.

I'm looking forward to watchin your model progress!

Clare
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Re: Atesania Latina kit HMS Supply

Postby GaryM » Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:46 pm

This is a big commitment to take on as your first vessel. I am sure it will make a great ship. It is important thing to do is read the directions all the way through so that you get an idea of how it goes together. As you start a step, reread the instruction and make sure you can visualize how the will look together.
There are some really knowledgeable people here and if you have questions, ask and people will help.
Good luck and enjoy.
Happy modeling,
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Re: Atesania Latina kit HMS Supply

Postby Donnie » Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:29 am

Hi Fragle,

It is great that you are starting a build log on this. Don't worry - I am not a history person either.

May I make a suggestion. The very first thing to do is to make you a "building board". The building board will be the docking place for your ship during its construction.

Actually, there are two building boards. The first one is made to hold the frame in place and square. Then later, another building board is made that will be somewhat permanent until the ship is mounted in some form or another.

The first image is the ship sitting in a cradle. The next is the building board holding the Bulkheads in place. Notice the spacers. All of this is made with MDF (Medium Density Fiberboard) - glued the spacers, etc in place using regular Tite Bond.

And speaking of glue - my humble opinion is to use the Titebond wood glue for your framing because you want to make adjustments and to maintain squareness as the Bulkheads dry.

I dry fitting most all the Bulkheads (the rib looking pieces) and after it all looked ok, then I did not remove the pieces. I let the Tite Bond glue basically run down the sides (joints) and let it soak in. This way you are not disturbing any alignments. Just make sure that you do not overlook any glue that might run on down and wind up gluing the frame to your building board.

However, let me say that others have come up with building boards that do not resemble what I have shown, but have actually come up with some rather more-better creative way than this.

When the frame is dry, turn the frame upside down on a very flat surface. Look at all four corners of the frame and see what parts are touching the flat surface. This will automatically verify if you have any twist in the frame.

Remember that a very small error in framing will result in larger problems later. They accumulate. A nice square frame will make planking your hull a lot better and be more symmetrical.

Everything has a tolerance and "give and take" when it comes to all of this. The main point is that everything is within reason. Just like with machinist - they do not use the word perfect. They use the word tolerances.

And after all, it is your model and your creativity. You are the one that will ultimately be the judge.

Enjoy !

Donnie
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Re: Atesania Latina kit HMS Supply

Postby fragle123 » Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:32 am

thank you for the advice and tips i will have to remember those for the next time as this build is well on its way to completion maybe just a few months work left to do.
I have been trying to upload some more photos but they're not showing up when i go to preview them or being added after i click the add file button im sure the problem lays with me but i will get it sorted im sure
cheers steve
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Re: Atesania Latina kit HMS Supply

Postby fragle123 » Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:15 pm

got it sorted now
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Re: Atesania Latina kit HMS Supply

Postby fragle123 » Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:24 pm

here are some more photos showing the early stages of the build
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Re: Atesania Latina kit HMS Supply

Postby GaryM » Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:52 pm

Looks like a good start on a nice kit. It seems like their fittings are nicely done and very clean.
Happy modeling,
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Re: Atesania Latina kit HMS Supply

Postby fragle123 » Sun Nov 10, 2013 5:32 am

Hi Gary
yes i was quite pleased with the way things went together i do believe this is meant as a starter kit and therefore alot of the deck fittings were cast metal and i did notice that the small photo booklet you get with the kit showed some of the fittings in wood but the same fittings in the kit are metal and i just did not like the look of some of them so made an attempt at scratch building my own.
cheers steve
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Re: Atesania Latina kit HMS Supply

Postby fragle123 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:14 am

Here is the start of the hull planking sorry some of the images are blurred, had problems with this camera at the time and eventually bought a new one
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Deck planking done i then gave it a couple of coats of Danish Oil
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planked the aft end
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first planked layed and gave the planks a good soaking and then used a soldering iron to bend them
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