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Buildlog: The Corsair

Post by Sjors55 » Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:55 am

This is a build log of OcCre's 1:80 Corsair. This is my first sail ship, and I'm sure I will be asking for help along the way. So I thank you all in advance for your help and tips. So with much anticipation here is my build log.

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Sjors

The word Corsair means ‘Pirate’.
Height 580 mm, Lenght 750mm, Width 270 mm.
This originally merchant brigantine was transformed when it got into the hands of the corsairs, and fitted out with 16 cannons and 4 falconets, which all helped them to carry out their misdeeds with better chances of success. The corsair's "trade" was in many cases practiced with the permission of the state, giving them carte blanche for piracy.
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Current build: San Ildefonso by OcCre (1:70)
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Re: Buildlog: The Corsair

Post by Donnie » Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:06 am

Hi Sjors,
I am very excited to see you get your Corsair and to see your build log. I appreciate your into as now I know about the history of that name. I never knew that !!

You have a nice clean organized work area. Yes, we are here to help you. I can see the image of your manual for construction. It seems that OcCre is getting much better at providing more quality instructions.

Good luck with your build. Looks like you are off to good start. Allow me to make one very first recommendation. Please make sure that your "frame" is straight and does not have a twist to it. Remember that very small errors will accumulate (add) and when you start to place your planking, you want to make sure your frame is symmetrical (same on both sides).

I did not do this on my Trinidad Frame. I assume that I was taking all precautions. But, guess what. One day, I turned my frame upside on on the workbench so that I could start my planking and I quickly found out that the frame did not "rest" on the workbench, but had a very slight twist to it. In other words, the frame would slightly rock back and forth. I could not believe it as I did everything to make sure my frame was straight. Well, it WAS straight in one dimension. But I did not realize that the bulkheads were not all the same height. It is hard to explain, but I will try. When the hull was turned upside down with the top of the bulkheads resting on the bench, I found that the FIRST and LAST Bulkheads were not touching the bench evenly !!
I do not remember my remedy. Your Corsair frame might have two square dowels (one for each side) that will travel down the frame to keep things align. But make sure that your frame is even in all 3 dimensions. You will be glad. I am sure that you probably all ready know this basic info, but I know myself, and I would probably forget to do so.

I look forward to reading more of your post.
I hope you do not mind, but I copy your image to demonstrate my points to you.

Donnie
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Re: Buildlog: The Corsair

Post by Sjors55 » Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:25 pm

Hi Donnie,
I don't mind you copying my images to make recommendations. I didn't knew this basic information. Thanks!

I did the caulking and the treenails with a mechanical pencil. Next time I will try a normal pencil that has a different hardness.
At first I tried with a black thread, but when sanding the wood the thread completely disappeared.
But practise makes perfect, I hope :).

I found the wood for the planking a bit frayed compared to the wood I used on the Spirit of Mississippi. But on your log I saw the wood you used for the planking looked the same.

First I've put the deck on the hull. And then I did the planking. My reason for this is that with the Spirit of Mississippi I did it the other way around and the deck turned out twisted.

Regards,
Sjors
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Current build:
Le Mirage by Corel (1:75)

Current build: San Ildefonso by OcCre (1:70)
http://www.shipsofscale.com/phpBB3/view ... f=52&t=279

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Re: Buildlog: The Corsair

Post by popeye » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:26 pm

yes, there can be a down side to that.....when cement dries, it shrinks, taking the wood with it. same story with the hull....do both side at the same time. you have a nice looking build going on. looking forward to seeing more of your build :D

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Re: Buildlog: The Corsair

Post by Sjors55 » Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:23 am

Hi Popeye,
Thanks for the explanation.
Maybe when I put the varnish on, it will look better.......
And for the planking. That's what I intended to do. First a shelf on one side and then on the other side.
When I was planking the "Smit Rotterdam" I did it the same way. And it works good.
And as soon I have an update, I shall post it.
Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it.
(Mahatma Gandhi)

Current build:
Le Mirage by Corel (1:75)

Current build: San Ildefonso by OcCre (1:70)
http://www.shipsofscale.com/phpBB3/view ... f=52&t=279

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Re: Buildlog: The Corsair

Post by wim500 » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:06 pm

This is a beautiful lady-pirate :D.
Nice build so far.

As popeye already said for planking the hull:
do both side at the same time.
One at the left side and one at the right side and so on...


Wim
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Re: Buildlog: The Corsair

Post by Sjors55 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:37 am

The building of the bulwark has yielded some words which I will not repeat here. :evil: Otherwise you will remove me from the forum. But I comfort myself with the thought that you might have experienced the same.

According to the manual I first had to plank the bulwark?? But when you do that, it won't be possible anymore to bend it in the right form. So I first wet the bulwark, so it would bend more easily and put it on the deck. Afterwards I can plank it.

The bow does not fit well. But maybe that's because the sides are slightly sideways on the bottom. When I put the planking on, this won't be visible anymore. Am I correct or did I perhaps do something wrong? :?
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Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it.
(Mahatma Gandhi)

Current build:
Le Mirage by Corel (1:75)

Current build: San Ildefonso by OcCre (1:70)
http://www.shipsofscale.com/phpBB3/view ... f=52&t=279

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Re: Buildlog: The Corsair

Post by Donnie » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:48 pm

Hi Sjors,
I see what you mean on the Bow. That is a rather questionable situation. The only thing that I can think of at the moment is that if you have "faired" your hull yet. Fairing is just a term to mean to shape the hull to make sure your planks will lay flat from Stern to Bow. Maybe enough wood has not been removed. Are you sure that you do not have a "piece" that fits in between those bulwark pieces at the Bow?

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Current Build: Panart San Felipe 1:75
Completed Build: Santisima Trinidad

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Re: Buildlog: The Corsair

Post by Sjors55 » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:59 am

Hi Donnie,

I think I know what you mean. Maybe I didn't remove enough wood.
But I'm sure I have a piece that fits in between the bulwark pieces at the bow. Good idea :idea:
Otherwise I can make a piece that will fit. I still have wood left from the Spirit of Mississippi.

I'm going to work on that later this afternoon. I'll post a picture when It's ready. Wish me luck.

Sjors
Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it.
(Mahatma Gandhi)

Current build:
Le Mirage by Corel (1:75)

Current build: San Ildefonso by OcCre (1:70)
http://www.shipsofscale.com/phpBB3/view ... f=52&t=279

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Re: Buildlog: The Corsair

Post by Donnie » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:05 am

Sometimes the Keel will make its way up to the top of that Bulwark. I am not sure what your plans call for. Your plans might call for you to join those two pieces together and not have a piece to fill the gap. If this is the case, then a little more sanding and fairing might be in order. But, like they say, a little goes a long way. It is so easy to remove too much wood.

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