Sovereign of the Seas by Sergal/Mantua

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Re: Sovereign of the Seas by Sergal/Mantua

Postby Donnie » Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:57 pm

This is one ship that I only have dreamed of building. I am not sure if I can tackle this one or not. Seems quite daunting. At any rate, it seems that you are off to a great start on your Build Log. I assume that you are going to use simple wood glue to glue the frame. I know that I did. The reason is that you can make adjustments to the alignment before the glue dries.
I know everybody gets tired of me saying this, but make sure you turn your frame/hull upside down and see if all the "highest points" of the frame are touching evenly on a flat surface. I did not do this. Then one day while I was working on the frame, I decided to flip that hull/frame upside down only to see that one corner of the frame was like 1/8" floating off the table. In other words, the frame would "rock back and forth" - oh well, it was done now - so I had to move on. Any distortions even a little twist can make this one error accumulate with problems as you move along. For instance the planking might have problems.

:twocents-02cents: Oh, well, just my 2 cents worth.
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Re: Sovereign of the Seas by Sergal/Mantua

Postby GaryM » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:16 pm

I used Titebond 2 or 3 to glue the frames. 2 does not set as fast as 3 but 3 is a stronger bond. 2 takes about 20 to 30 minutes, depending on amount applied, to set firmly enough where movement would destroy some of the final bonding strength. Titebond 3 sets in about half that time. Both have a 24 hour final cure time.
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Current build: Sergal Sovereign of the Seas
In Que: Sergal: Cutty Sark and Amerigo Vespucci; Billings Titanic
Completed: Amati: HMS Prince (old 1:78 version); Billings: Norske Love and Vasa; Mantua: La Couronne; Sergal: Mississippi Riverboat and La Soleil Royal
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Re: Sovereign of the Seas by Sergal/Mantua

Postby SgtGlick » Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:17 am

Hi Gary,
I use Weldbond for the bulkheads.
Joints soaked in alcohol can be loosened to fix errors.
CA for "tacking"
Sgt Glick :cool:

GaryM wrote:I used Titebond 2 or 3 to glue the frames. 2 does not set as fast as 3 but 3 is a stronger bond. 2 takes about 20 to 30 minutes, depending on amount applied, to set firmly enough where movement would destroy some of the final bonding strength. Titebond 3 sets in about half that time. Both have a 24 hour final cure time.
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Re: Sovereign of the Seas by Sergal/Mantua

Postby Anja » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:00 am

Hello Sgt Glick,

Another beautiful build. I wish you luck with this build and happy modeling.

Take care,

Anja
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Re: Sovereign of the Seas by Sergal/Mantua

Postby GaryM » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:35 pm

Hello Sgt Glick:
Interesting how everyone has their favorite way of handling the same item. You said "Joints soaked in alcohol." This has the advantage of preparing your sailors for their drinking days. :text-lol:
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Gary Maple

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Current build: Sergal Sovereign of the Seas
In Que: Sergal: Cutty Sark and Amerigo Vespucci; Billings Titanic
Completed: Amati: HMS Prince (old 1:78 version); Billings: Norske Love and Vasa; Mantua: La Couronne; Sergal: Mississippi Riverboat and La Soleil Royal
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Re: Sovereign of the Seas by Sergal/Mantua

Postby SgtGlick » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:36 pm

Hi Gary,
Do you realize you gave yourself away?
By mentioning sailors in connection with ship models,
you let me know you are really into it :cool:
Sgt Glick

GaryM wrote:Hello Sgt Glick:
Interesting how everyone has their favorite way of handling the same item. You said "Joints soaked in alcohol." This has the advantage of preparing your sailors for their drinking days. :text-lol:
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Re: Sovereign of the Seas by Sergal/Mantua

Postby Donnie » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:01 pm

I am waiting to smell the woodglue on the frame !!! :handgestures-thumbup:
Current Build Prep: Panart San Felipe 1:75
Completed Build: Santisima Trinidad

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Re: Sovereign of the Seas by Sergal/Mantua

Postby SgtGlick » Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:05 pm

Not until I know for sure where the gun posts go.
Sgt Glick :cool:
Buried in research..... ;-)


Donnie wrote:I am waiting to smell the woodglue on the frame !!! :handgestures-thumbup:
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Re: Sovereign of the Seas by Sergal/Mantua

Postby Sjors55 » Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:23 pm

Hi SgtClick,

Welcome :D
I will follow you also on this one because this one is on my wish list.
First I have to finish the Mirage and the San Ildefonso and then I have to look very lovely to Anja and maybe this is gonna be my next project.....
Enjoy your build and let us see what you are doing....

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Re: Sovereign of the Seas by Sergal/Mantua

Postby SgtGlick » Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:51 am

Hi Steve,
Thanks for the good luck wish.
Sgt Glick :cool:

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