Mantua Sergal's Le Soleil Royal

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Mantua Sergal's Le Soleil Royal

Post by GaryM » Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:36 pm

Since the level of detail a person may add and the availability and amount of research a person may chose to perform will vary with each modeler, the times I show are related to the actual work performed on the vessel. Each person’s ability to read and interpret plans can vary a great detail. Thus, the time reflects only that used to measure the plans for comparison on the vessel or to determine the size of wood used to make a part that is unclear and not listed in the instructions or on the plans separately. Hopefully, by doing this, a person can use this as a guide to determine the level of commitment necessary to compete this type of project or can use it to gauge how far along they are if building the same vessel.

The English translation is "The Royal Sun". The picture shows the ship after 400 hours of work to do the double planking and cut the cannon ports. The ports were even spaced based upon the model in the Louve in France and Heller's plastic model. I purchased shots from the museum to verify this. The only ship to have uneven spacing that I know of was the Soverign of the Seas. The ornamentation was more important to the king since it showed status. The Soliel Royal kit was not designed for this and I had to modify it as much as possible to make things fit. This make it really a challenge to get the cannons put in. I am currently completing most of the outside and will submit more pictures when this is done.

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Completed: Amati: HMS Prince (old 1:78 version); Billings: Norske Love and Vasa; Mantua: La Couronne; Sergal: Mississippi Riverboat and La Soleil Royal

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Re: Mantua's Le Soleil Royal

Post by Seafever » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:31 pm

:text-welcomewave: What a Job ! It must have been a nightmare to line up all those port holes ! :greetings-clapyellow: You've taken on one of my favorite model's I have to keep up with this build Log keep the posts and photo's coming ! :text-coolphotos:
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Re: Mantua's Le Soleil Royal

Post by popeye » Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:54 pm

yepper!! that's quite a ship! it's going to be fun watching this one come alive!!!

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Re: Mantua's Le Soleil Royal

Post by Donnie » Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:31 am

I agree 100% - This is some fantastic work on the gun frames. Can't wait to see more and to watch this ship take shape. The Royal Soliel is one of my favorites too.
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Re: Mantua's Le Soleil Royal

Post by Sjors55 » Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:45 pm

Hi Gary,

Also from me :text-welcomewave:
Anja shows me your vessel and it looks great.
And you are doing a great job!
Let those pictures coming.
One question.......
Is it possible to reduce your pictures ?

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Re: Mantua's Le Soleil Royal

Post by Donnie » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:50 am

What happened to Gary?
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Re: Mantua's Le Soleil Royal

Post by popeye » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:24 pm

what do you mean?

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Re: Mantua's Le Soleil Royal

Post by Sjors55 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:36 pm

I recieved a e-mail from him this morning......
Nothing serious. Only the question how he can reduce his pictures
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Re: Mantua's Le Soleil Royal

Post by papership » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:26 pm

Holy Cow Batman, that is a Bad Mama Jama. Another of my favorite ships. I built this back in the 70's from the Heller plastic kit and it was a monster, so I can only guess what it takes to build it in a wood version.
I will watch this one with interest.
And may I say howdy, I am Rick and am glad to see you posting here.
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Mantua Le Soleil Royal after 700 hours

Post by GaryM » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:22 pm

I noticed several comments about soaking planks to get the proper curve. This is a lengthy process and streches the molucles to make the bend. Thus, creating a weaker plank. Before Amati came out with a heated plank bending iron, I used to use a candle which was a tricky process. By using direct heat, the molecules are realigned to fit the curve desired. No weak spots. After learning how to use the heating tool, you can make bends very fast and check how they fit and apply them as soon as they are correct. Prior to heating, I use the Panart hull holder to taper the planks. The plank on the front of my paddlewheeler that goes around the bow was 2 mm thick and 6 mm wide plywood. I do not remember exactly how long it took to bend but I think it was about 20 minutes. Thinner planks bend a lot faster and limewood is almost instantly bent using this method.

PHOTOS:
I used windows paint and was very please with the results. I am amazed at how much faster it loads and does not give me the invalid message. Thanks everyone for the suggestion.

THE SHIP:
This is a thinking persons ship. The instruction sequences were obviously written by a person who never tried to assemble it and provide decent drawing but otherwise are basically a parts list. The plans are good and everything is there to do the model.
Most kits grates have oversize holes. The holes are 2 1/2 inches or less, so I replaced these. Since the cannon spacing was change to meet the real ship, several methods had to be adopted to mount them.
Currently, there is 2,400 pieces on the ship.
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Happy modeling,
Gary Maple

Problems are just challenges waiting for your solution.

Current build: Sergal Sovereign of the Seas
In Que: Sergal: Cutty Sark and Amerigo Vespucci; Billings Titanic
Completed: Amati: HMS Prince (old 1:78 version); Billings: Norske Love and Vasa; Mantua: La Couronne; Sergal: Mississippi Riverboat and La Soleil Royal

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