Build Log: Panart Armed Pinnace

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Re: Build Log: Panart Armed Pinnace

Post by Graham » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:09 pm

Thanks guys, I appreciate your comments.
So, on with the second layer of three. Since this layer will never be seen I could slap the planks on, all pretty rough, use a lot of filler and have it done in a day. However, any planking experience is good experience and I do need to get better at some aspects - tapering any stealers, bending etc. And I have been doing some reading - always a dangerous thing to do. I would like to add a bit of realism to the outer layer and will do a butt shift system, which is how the planks have a stepped appearance rather like bricks in a wall - I know that is a massive over-simplification, but you get the idea. I looked at 3 butt shifts and 4 butt shifts. In the end I opted for something simpler on this layer and this is 'Graham's butt shift system' with a simple overlap one quarter plank length shift. I have opted for a plank length of 8 inches which gives a scale length of 12 ft. That might be wrong, I don't know, but I like the look.
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Learning point: It is useful now and again to lay on and fix a full uncut plank, but marked via a wedge shaped cut at the appropriate plank length chosen - they'll never know. This isn't so much cheating as putting a complete and uncut plank length in place in order to get back a straight edge to work to and keep the edge fits tight - I fear a buildup of tolerances of any edge gaps which might result in some pretty funky shaped in-fill pieces later.
Ever onward, we'll see how this ends up.
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Re: Build Log: Panart Armed Pinnace

Post by Graham » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:46 pm

It seems to be going OK. I can not pin to the frames for reasons previously explained, so the curve and twist of the planks takes some time (I use a heated bender) in order for them to lay flat and not spring. The problem comes in that as I work towards the keel I am now beyond the reach of the clamps I have and although I use CA it is pretty boring holding each plank in place while the glue sets. The solution I came up with was to bend some planks, pin them to the underside of the keel, then clamp them such that they press on the plank being glued. As I move up the hull they can be re-shaped or packers used in order that the contact point is over the plank being glued in place, and they can be swung over to work on the opposite side of the hull when necessary.
It seems to work pretty well, so I thought I'd share it with you.
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Re: Build Log: Panart Armed Pinnace

Post by Graham » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:42 am

Further progress on the second layer of planking.
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Second layer completed...
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... and sanded
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Not really anything to report to you on special techniques or anything, it's just a case of a steady plod and careful measuring. As my Dad used to say 'Measure twice, cut once'; wise words, indeed.
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Re: Build Log: Panart Armed Pinnace

Post by mtbediz » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:52 am

Graham wrote:It seems to be going OK. I can not pin to the frames for reasons previously explained, so the curve and twist of the planks takes some time (I use a heated bender) in order for them to lay flat and not spring. The problem comes in that as I work towards the keel I am now beyond the reach of the clamps I have and although I use CA it is pretty boring holding each plank in place while the glue sets. The solution I came up with was to bend some planks, pin them to the underside of the keel, then clamp them such that they press on the plank being glued. As I move up the hull they can be re-shaped or packers used in order that the contact point is over the plank being glued in place, and they can be swung over to work on the opposite side of the hull when necessary.
It seems to work pretty well, so I thought I'd share it with you.
Hi Graham,

Hull planking looks amazing. By the way, i can suggest you to use rubbers to keep planks in place while glue sets in your next build. It maybe more convenient for you. Have a great day.

Mustafa
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Re: Build Log: Panart Armed Pinnace

Post by paulv1958 » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:37 am

Nice job.
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Re: Build Log: Panart Armed Pinnace

Post by GemmaJF » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:08 am

Another suggestion if you want to carry-on with CA, get some kicker, apply it to the opposite surface to where you have applied the glue, will shorten the time you need to hold it considerably

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Re: Build Log: Panart Armed Pinnace

Post by Graham » Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:41 pm

Thanks to everyone for sharing your planking tips. It's been around three months since I touched the ship due to a long holiday trip in the caravan (Scotland) and while we were away She Who Must Be Obeyed came up with a list of jobs to be done around the house and garden, so I cleared those off when we got home.

Time to finish off the third layer of planking. I ran a long strip stem to stern and spaced it off by six planks; the masking tape is to keep those six planks together rather than having to grow another thumb -
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Spacing planks removed and the gap being filled -
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........ and towards the keel -
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Finished, yet to be sanded -
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All sanded smooth. As you can see I have planked the transom on the diagonal. I saw this on Zoltan's build, so thanks for the idea. It probably is not in keeping with the period but I like the look.
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Re: Build Log: Panart Armed Pinnace

Post by Aussie048 » Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:47 pm

Graham

The Pinnace is looking good

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Re: Build Log: Panart Armed Pinnace

Post by neptune » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:40 am

G'day Graham, beautiful build, nice and clean, I will have to go back to the start of the build and read it through.

I deleted your email after reading it as I thought there would be a reply on here, I was mistaken, I left the pins in the solution for approx 10 minutes and they were ready,

best regards John.

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Re: Build Log: Panart Armed Pinnace

Post by popeye » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:49 am

nice looking hull graham.....was there a reason why you did three hull plankings?

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