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Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Postby paulv1958 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:59 am

HI this is my first log with SOS, Hope you enjoy the build of the Occre Cazador or Xebec.

A xebec (/ˈziːbɛk/ or /zᵻˈbɛk/), also spelled zebec, was a Mediterranean sailing ship that was used mostly for trading. It would have a long overhanging bowsprit and aft-set mizzen mast. The term can also refer to a small, fast vessel of the sixteenth to nineteenth centuries, used almost exclusively in the Mediterranean Sea.
Xebecs were similar to galleys used by Algerian corsairs and Barbary pirates having both lateen sails and oars for propulsion. Early xebecs had two masts; later ones three. Xebecs featured a distinctive hull with pronounced overhanging bow and stern,[1] and rarely displaced more than 200 tons, making them slightly smaller and with slightly fewer guns than frigates of the period.

Some victorious xebecs of the Spanish Navy, about 1770

Andaluz, 30 guns (4 x 8 pounders)
Africa, 18 guns (4 pounders)
Atrevido, 20 guns
Aventurero, 30 guns (3 x 8 pounders)
Murciano, 16 guns, 4 pedreros (light rotary guns)
San Antonio

Notable xebecs of the French Navy include four launched in 1750:

Ruse, 160 tons, 18 guns
Serpent, 160 tons burthen, 18 guns
Requin, 260 tons burthen, 24 guns
Indiscret, 260 tons burthen, 24 guns

In the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries, a large polacre-xebec carried a square rig on the foremast, lateen sails on the other masts, a bowsprit, and two headsails. The square sail distinguished this form of a xebec from that of a felucca which is equipped solely with lateen sails. The last of the xebecs in use by European navies were fully square-rigged and were termed xebec-frigates.

The British brig-sloop Speedy's (14 guns, 54 men) defeat of the Spanish xebec-frigate El Gamo (32 guns, 319 men) on 6 May 1801 is generally regarded as one of the most remarkable single-ship actions in naval history. It was the foundation of the legendary reputation of the Speedy's commander, Lord Cochrane (later known as the "Sea Wolf" and Admiral Thomas Cochrane, 10th Earl of Dundonald, GCB), which has in turn inspired fictional accounts in sea fiction, like Patrick O'Brian's Master and Commander

Sea-going Mediterranean peoples greatly favoured xebecs as corsairs. The corsairs built their xebecs with a narrow floor to achieve a higher speed than their victims, but with a considerable beam in order to enable them to carry an extensive sail-plan. The lateen rig of the xebec allowed the ship to sail close hauled to the wind, something that often give it an advantage in pursuit or escape. The use of oars or sweeps allowed the xebec to approach vessels who were becalmed. When used as corsairs, the xebecs carried a crew of 300 to 400 men and mounted perhaps 16 to 40 guns according to size. In peacetime operations, the xebec could transport merchandise.

The Spanish jabeque had only lateen sails, as portrayed in the Cazador. The Spanish Crown built Cazador in the mid-eighteenth century to fight Algerian corsairs (privateers) in the Mediterranean. Algerian corsairs also used three-lateen-sail xebecs in their raids on Mediterranean trade.

Occre Kit Model

The 1:60 scale model has an overall length of 860 mms, a 160 mms beam and is 640 mms to the top of the main yard.

I was lucky to purchase this Kit 2 years ago a a bargain price of $299

Anyway here is the obligatory Contents photos. ( not this is not Laser cur nor CNC but appears to be Die cut for the main wood parts.)

The false keel * bulkheads are a very lightweight ( and pre glued breakable )3 ply. The rest of the wood is quite good and the fittings are metal or brass. The cannon supports are metal, however I will paint them and see how we go.

The Kit box

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Contents

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False Keel & bulkheads ready for dryfit

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All fitted very nicely with no sanding req,

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Now to glue her up

See you soon.
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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Postby paulv1958 » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:54 am

After an overnight dry the bulk heads are all fitted and glued. Next up the main deck.

The deck has a very pronounced convex shape with an upward sweep tot he bow. Fitting was quite easy and required no adjustments or sanding. The only difficulty was hold the deck in shape whilst adding the pins to hold the shape and glue.

The instructions suggested using the supplied brass nails (pins) for holding the deck and then filing them smooth with the deck after it dries. ( Yeh sure, not gunna happen). Due to the nature of the ply ( close inspection shows it is a balsa like wood with laminated ply surface) the nails just pulled out under the stress of the deck shaping. Map pins no issue and the flat pin surface held the deck in place. As they do not stick to PVA they pull out easily afterwards.

Glued and ready for decking
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The deck is added and pinned in place.

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PIns removed. Note the curve of the deck. ( sleek)

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Next the rear wall was to be planked. ( The same wood is used for the decking. its 1 x 3 Ramin. This is different in width and thickness ti the stuff supplied with AL kits which is .5 x 4mm. )

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The decking strips are nice and clean and finished off. I have decided to go with a 3 butt shift at 9cm ( = 18ft planks at 1:60). The reasoning for this was the deck gratings & mast hols are 6cm apart. With a 3 butt shift of 3/6/9 and an overall deck length of 39cm it all fits nicely. 18ft also seems a reasonable length for the planks.

The kit suggests applying the deck planing next, but I have skipped ahead and added the lower supports and will start to shape them before I add the decking to avoid accidents.

Supports added
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I will be back with the planking.

paulv
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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Postby Donnie » Wed Feb 15, 2017 11:32 am

Very nice start and a very nice array of parts. I like the way OcCre provides the rigging line on a tube. Other manufactures should do the same instead of using a flat cardboard or flat plastic which indents the line.

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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Postby paulv1958 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:41 am

Update

The

The deck has now been added to the main deck.
The inst called for the use of contact adhesive, however as I was not in a rush and to allow me move movement, I used good old PVA.

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All went well and after a light sanding and coating of water based sealer the desk came up very nice.
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Next the rear deck was added. This was simpler than main, but has again a pronounced curve that need to be held in place whilst drying.

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Decking was added in the same manner as the main at 9cm lengths with a 3 butt pattern.

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The next step called for the adding of supports for the bulwark. These consisted of using some 2 x 5 ramin ( lime wood). This is the same used for the hull planking.
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The came the bulwark instructions. The inst called for the adding of .5mm ramin lining and then attach the bulwark.


1. The bulwark has to be curved at the rear and bent at the front. Whilst the bending should not be an issue ( it was) the curving is severe and the heat would have lead to issues.

Bulwark as supplied and ship shape.

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Time to used the patented electric plank bender ( which works brilliantly)
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Result

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Next came the removal of all the cannon ports. ( Each is a actual part to be used later, so care must be taken and the parts bagged.

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The bulwarks were then planked with .5 ramin again at a 9cm length and pencil edged. This time a 2 butt pattern was used.

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Here is where the issue occurred. Dampening the wood and heat bending caused the lining to lift. Whilst not a huge issue, it was still a pain to re seat. Lesson learned, do all bending first.

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The bulwarks were then lined up as per the inst and nailed and glued in place.

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After drying the nails were removed ( despite Occre still recommending they be cut and filed.......)

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The final result.

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Now all I have to do is repeat for the other side !!!!! ( lining lesson learned)

See you soon Paul

Donne the best thread I have used is Caldercraft or Jotika. followed by Amati.
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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Postby GemmaJF » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:21 pm

Watching with interest. :D
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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Postby GaryM » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:35 pm

Looks like a nice little kit. Seems you are enjoying the build. I remember the learning curve you are going through. Keep up the good work.
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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Postby Donnie » Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:48 pm

Dampening the wood and heat bending caused the lining to lift


Ouch !!! Seems like you got a handle on it though. At least you are not like me and prying things apart and re gluing !!!

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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Postby paulv1958 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:14 pm

Tks Gary. Yep stupid mistake. ( There is another one below but caught)

Tks Donnie, Panart kits are a challenge but, it would be boring if it was to easy....( HMMM)

Okay lesson learned, this time it was all smooth sailing.

Pre bend bulwarks !.

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Line and glue in place. ( Gee they fit nicely)

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Next add the upper deck Bulwarks ( Nice fit without only a little sanding at tabs. ( no bend req on these)

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Next was fill in for 4 false cannon ports with backing. ( it does not mention painting them black but....)

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The instructions then suggest applying the final rear veneer, I stupidly stated and then re checked the photos. Yep theY applied this first anD then the rest of the hull planking. In my mind this causes two issues ( and in there instruction photos and box art on close inspection).

1. The inner and outer hull planking become clearly visible as white & brown plank outlines at the rear of the ship and would req staining for even color and this in turn could leach to the rear and not be an exact match.

2. First sanding of the hull is liable to damage the veneer,

Solution stop where I was and apply after hull complete. This then applies a neat end cap
Whilst it may not be ship correct it is neat and clean looks, better, and suits me.

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Okay so that aside, it was time to start the hull planking.

Occre suggest adding the keel after planking and then cut 4mm gap to allow for keel.I decided to add keel and plank up to it. Although more care has to be done for the cutting and shaping of planks, This then allows a neater and closer fitting finish( which I need more practice for the Santa Ana..

One plank added only....

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The ship is now 750mm in length and growing.....

See you after some more planking.... ( I hope)
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Occre Albatros
AL Endeavour Longboat
AL Spanish Galleon Heritage Kit
Panart : Between Gun decks ( bashed)
Caldercraft Endeavour.
AL King of Mississippi
Corel Victory Cross Section

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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Postby Brian077 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:36 pm

Hi Paul,

fellow Melbournian here and also building a Xebec. I will try to upload some pictures soon.
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Re: Cazador-Xebec Occre 1:60 by Paul V

Postby paulv1958 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:15 am

Cheers Brian, we have PM'd in the past.
Is Ship society of Vic still going as there is b all info on the site.
Is there any clubs SE way ??

Will be nice to see your ZHL, is it the Le Requin1750 or the Misticque. I drool over the Le Requin,
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Occre Albatros
AL Endeavour Longboat
AL Spanish Galleon Heritage Kit
Panart : Between Gun decks ( bashed)
Caldercraft Endeavour.
AL King of Mississippi
Corel Victory Cross Section

On shelf
AL Santa Ana ( Next Build)
Caldercraft HMS Victory

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